Monday, December 21, 2009

5 radical actions that could get you arrested, 5 alternatives that probably won't

Posted by Mickey Z on 12/21 at 08:25 AM
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  1. Continuing on with the double standard point.

    It seems like a simple thing. We just talked about the corporation as a legal person, thanks sub-g, and also about activists getting detained with extreme prejudice for things that the rich do a hundred times over with no consequence.

    It fits Derek Jensen’s clear point about ‘violence’ going down the system only. Even Dave Chapelle did a memorable skit about it where the drug dealer gets the corporate luxury treatment and the CEO gets his door kicked in.

    But the legal point is also the basis of the ‘intelligent’ media/political flak. Especially their control of discourse.

    So, whenever educated media writers or politicians actually take up the debate on wars or pollution or healthcare or whatever. They start to bring up laws and legality. They then start applying them to the situation and wrap it again inside a bubble of ‘in real life, it’s no so simple’. We have to respect laws etc.

    As soon as you enter into the discussion you have been hoodwinked.

    They are not social contracts or democratic laws. As we see, most of these laws are victors laws or have been applied to suit the elites. They are applied rabidly when it suits them but almost never in a general or fair manner.

    As long as the banks can put millions out of work and on the streets through what is basically gambling, and then get a tax money bailout, or as long as a company can mass pollute with little consequence while activists go to jail for holding a sign, or as long as we have the Nuremberg precedents and Geneva conventions and also Iraq and Palestine ... then their legal discussions are invalid.

    The meaning of thing relies on several aspects, including how it works in reality.

    Posted by Andy from Shanghai  on  12/21  at  10:09 AM

  2. Mickey, ingenious Planet Green article today.

    Andy..."In real life, it’s not so simple”...absolutely right about getting hoodwinked by entering into this sort of discussion. The argument might as well be restated: “Disagreeing with me is non-conformist and therefore suspect.”

    Posted by Keir from here and there  on  12/21  at  11:07 AM

  3. By the way ...

    That hurt

    The, ahem, underwear is a locally made fake by the way. So eat me Calvin.

    Posted by Andy from Shanghai  on  12/21  at  12:13 PM

  4. Hi Andy. Nice, um, pic.

    Thanks, Keir. It’s one of the few ways to discuss radical tactics with a mainstream audience.

    Posted by Mickey Z. from Astoria  on  12/21  at  12:15 PM

  5. OH, yeah, I should mention that too. I see what you were doing with the Planet Green article. Nice.

    Posted by Andy from Shanghai  on  12/21  at  12:59 PM

  6. Yeah, I have to echo Keir’s statement.  Kinda surprises me that Planet Green is letting you write stuff like this.  But I’m not complaining.  Right on.

    Posted by Charles from Jersey City  on  12/21  at  02:01 PM

  7. Mickey...I voted.

    Hi Helga, Charles, Andy, Keir, and all...about HOODWINKED--- John Perkins named his most recent book ‘HOODWINKED’.

    Posted by RMJ from Ward Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts  on  12/21  at  02:12 PM

  8. Yeah, gettin paid to write posts like this makes me think I’m being punk’d

    Posted by Mickey Z. from Astoria  on  12/21  at  03:45 PM

  9. “No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law.” Great quote there, Mickey - as are all your quotes. 

    And hello, Andy, keir, Charles and Rosemarie - from a warm Daylesford.  Off to Melbourne in a few hours - back on Saturday night.

    I wish all of you a very Merry Christmas - in spite of everything!

    Posted by Helga Fremlin from Daylesford, Australia  on  12/21  at  06:15 PM

  10. Thanks, Helga.

    How’s everyone today?

    Posted by Mickey Z. from Astoria  on  12/22  at  11:25 AM

  11. I’m just peachy.  I managed to wake up early today, which for me means I woke up before noon. 

    I found this neat video by The Story Of Stuff lady on why Cap & Trade is a joke. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA6FSy6EKrM

    Posted by Charles from Jersey City  on  12/22  at  01:10 PM

  12. Did you read the comments on that video, Charles? The woman who made the video basically wants to very gently reform capitalism and the masses scream communist.

    Posted by Mickey Z. from Astoria  on  12/22  at  01:21 PM

  13. We can pick up this conversation on the next thread. I just put up a new post.

    Posted by Mickey Z. from Astoria  on  12/22  at  01:27 PM

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