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Monday, July 11, 2005

Our Rasputin

Posted by Mickey Z on 07/11 at 05:38 AM
  1. They had to poison, shoot and drown Rasputin to get rid of him...I wonder what it will take to get rid of the Rover.

    Posted by James  on  from Puerto Rico 07/11  at  07:53 AM
  2. The sad part is that, no matter how the Rover is dispatched, there’ll be a Democrat version of Rove waiting to replace him.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 07/11  at  08:58 AM
  3. in the UK our version is called Alasdair Campbell. and he is just as much of a dick.

    Posted by michael  on  from scotland 07/11  at  09:45 AM
  4. Yes...and the other sad part is that he is only in trouble because he gave some supposed journalists information that constituted a “breach of national security,” not for his participation in the crimes the government of the US of A has committed against humanity today and throughout its history (Republican and Democrat).

    Posted by James  on  from Puerto Rico 07/11  at  09:56 AM
  5. Chomsky has said, recently, that he’s never been so busy with interviews and speaking engagements and such.  He’s amazed by the interest in Leftist / progressive perspectives.

    It’s sad but doubtless true:  The worse the nightmare, the more certain the awakening.  Perhaps, in some terrible way, the US needed Mr. Rove - the way a person who has OD’d needs a powerful emetic, or the way a sleeping person needs to be dragged out of bed, when the house is on fire…

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 07/11  at  10:32 AM
  6. I sort of agree with things being said here BUT, it seems to me that every time that we blame Bush or Rove we are exonerating the real culprits, The Congress and all of us. We are guilty, all of us. If the citizens of the U.S. had really objected to the war, or had really demanded impeachment, things would be different. None of us is without responsibility for what is happening. We all have to come to terms with the fact that what we are doing is not effective. Malcolm X and Ward Churchill are right. When Churchill recently asked a question about “fragging”, he was brutally attacked. Things are so bad in this country, that even asking a question can get you in trouble. That’s not Rove’s fault, it is OUR fault.

    Posted by rosemarie jackowski  on  from 07/11  at  02:12 PM
  7. Seems true to me, Rosemarie.  We’re like a sleeping population, dreaming that we’re free… A “Matrix” sort of a situation.  Yet, of course, we’ve been taught to sleep, taught to leave everything to “Big Mommie and Big Daddy,” the government and business… Just relax, go shopping, watch TV, try not to think about it, try not to “worry your little prole-heads” about these big people matters. 

    Back on July 4th, we were talking about the sounds and sights of war, of children delighting in the sounds of gun fire and mortar explosions, children riding on tanks and military vehicles, waving flags and looking adoringly at people in uniforms… We’re taught to be good little Americans, even before we’re able to speak.  We learn that we’re special, that we live in a country that is unique in the world, and unique in history.  We’re better, richer, more generous, more democratic, more thoughtful.  We bring light to a world which is almost always “sinking into darkness.” All this propaganda works surprisingly well.

    They’ve been developing and working and re-working these thought-control techniques since before WWI, when people DID NOT want to go to war, but the government did.  Since then, the OSS and then the CIA have been using all sorts of population control techniques in dozens of countries around the world.  When things work, they apply them here - slowly, quietly, effectively.

    Yes, we’re all responsible, but we’re all programmed to sleep and smile and be thankful…

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 07/11  at  05:00 PM
  8. On the “big daddy” note:
    http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/mickeyz02172003/

    And some pre-WWI propaganda:
    http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/MickeyZ_Skeptics.htm

    Thanks all…

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 07/11  at  05:30 PM
  9. Joe, you said it all.....we have become a nation of “good Americans”.  A few months ago, there was a peace vigil sponsored by a local veterans group. One veteran was holding a U.S. flag upon which the VETERAN had applied a swastica over the field of stars. The sight of the old veteran holding that flag angered one passing motorist so much that it almost resulted in a traffic accident. That motorist was a really “good American”. Every U.S. citizen should be “forced” to look at the photos of the bombed children and the babies born to mothers exposed to DU. ....I know, I know....somebody is going to respond that no one should ever be forced to do anything, but the U.S. just forced 200,000+ to die in Iraq.

    Posted by rosemarie  on  from 07/11  at  07:26 PM
  10. Very nice work, Mickey.
    I liked the Big Daddy piece very much.  I wrote a vaguely similar story in a letter to a friend, about a year ago, about the Arab - Israeli conflict.  Simple, excellent stories like this really convey an enormous amount of information, you know?  Intellectual AND powerful emotional information…

    The Skeptics piece is outrageous… Now, THIS, is organized crime, par excellance!  Reminds me of Smedley Butler saying that people think Al Copone was a tough guy - he operated in 3 counties, or something like that.  But, Butler, and the US Military, crushes opposition on three continents…

    For governments and corporations, laws are meaningless.  For ordinary people, the theft of a loaf of bread can mean prision time.  For the elites, mass murder on an astonishing scale can mean a sweet pay day, and a promotion.  It’s almost understandable that people down enormous amounts of alcohol and devote their lives to sports statistics…

    Somehow, we’ve got to stop the bastards.
    Thank you, Mickey.

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 07/11  at  07:43 PM
  11. Clarence Darrow once defined a “criminal” like this: “A person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation.”

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 07/11  at  08:58 PM
  12. One more thing: I just added a line between the Rove and Rasputin images. Can’t believe I didn’t think of it earlier.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 07/11  at  09:07 PM
  13. “Jimmy!” is that you?

    Clarence distilled three-hundred books and articles into a single line… amazing…

    Rosemarie - I must have been “writing,” while you were posting.  Perhaps people should have to look at pictures of some of our returning veterans.  Many are mentally overwhelmed, some are single even double amputees, there are brain injuries and various spinal cord injuries resulting in paralysis of one form or another.  Moreover, they should follow some of these battered men and women as they slowly reorient themselves to life in America, generally without much if any real assistance from the government or military.  People should realize that, as Bush was lauding our service men and women, he was cutting various financial and medical benefits for veterans and others.  Huge numbers of service-people have families on food stamps, and have to live from paycheck to paycheck while the government offers little more than disdain and rhetoric. 

    Well, as things get even worse, perhaps more and more of those among us will wake up and take a look around and notice, as we do, that nothing is as the government says it is.  I hope so…

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 07/11  at  11:47 PM
  14. Joe...I agree that the returning soldiers are often in very bad shape. PTSD is a major problem. I, and others in VFP Chapter 88, have been working for a long time to improve the conditions in our Veterans’ Home. BUT, there is one big difference between the soldiers and the Iraqi victims and that is that the Iraqis have no choice about what is happening to them. In spite of the bad economy here and the lies that recruiters tell etc. there still is an element of choice for the U.S. recruit. The distinction between the bomber and the bombed is an important one. I am always troubled when I see the numbers of our dead being publicized and the numbers of their dead being ignored. I am now at the point where I usually refuse to participate in any war protest that does not acknowledge the dead Iraqis. I see a big difference between the victim and the victimizer and believe that if the media in the U.S. could make that distinction, we would not be where we are today.  Thanks for your comment. You always make me think.  I am still hoping for a debate about Churchill’s recent comments on “fragging”. Anybody out there want to take me on?

    Posted by rosemarie jackowski  on  from 07/12  at  07:56 AM
  15. Hi again, Rosemarie.
    I just brought up “our troops,” and their circumstances, because I still see enormous numbers of those “support our troops ribbons” on cars and trucks and SUV’s everywhere I go.  People seem to be so smug and certain of their undying, unyeilding support for our soldiers - yet they don’t even have any idea how completely indifferent the government really is to their welfare.  I brought it up because, while this is supposedly such a “Sacred Song,” for so many - most Americans are just “lip-synching.”

    Like you, I’m horrified by the war, and by our generalized murder of most things human and humane, throughout the world.  You’re right, there’s really no way to equate our dreadful treatment of our military people and the mass murder, torture, slow starvation and terrorizing of the innocent civillians in Iraq… I just thought that - grim and dreadful as this sounds - that many folks here would, at least feel a revulsion for government treatment of our troops, while they might be pretty cold or callous about what we’re doing overseas.  ( Though, if they “knew,” I hope everyone would feel as horrified as we are...)

    I remember reading a piece some time ago, by Tim Robbins.  He said some elementary or high school had planned to have a two-minute period of silence, one morning, for our troops and for the Iraqi people killed or injured in the war.  The school administration shot it down because they didn’t want the children spending their time “worrying about these terrorists” UGH…

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 07/12  at  01:24 PM
  16. Hi Joe...I know that you “get it”. I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. It is just that I am loosing patience with those who do not place an equal value on the lives of all of the victims around the world. That is why I have been trying to publicize Churchill’s statement on Fragging. That U.S. policy is a perfect example of the duplicity of our foreign policy and our rules of engagement. You “get it” and also most of those who come to Mickey’s site get it. It is the 99% of the rest of the population that is a problem.

    Posted by rosemarie  on  from 07/12  at  02:13 PM
  17. ROVE- CLOSET WEAPON of MASS DECEPTION

    Posted by john cameron.  on  from oz 07/19  at  01:35 AM

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