Mickey Z
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Thursday, March 23, 2006
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Re: “Support political prisoner David Segal.” I dunno. The guy plead guilty to arson. That’s not something I feel like supporting. I might agree with his anti-war position, but certainly not with his methods.
Re: “Not sure what to read next?” I don’t have that problem. Quite the opposite! I can’t read ‘em fast enought.
Re: “William Blum sez”. I just read that Anti-Empire Report this morning, and was compelled to shoot off an e-mail to him re: 9/11. I agree with most of what he said, but had a few further thoughts.
He mentioned the 93 WTC bombing. Not only did the FBI have foreknowledge of that plot, but they had the opportunity to replace the real bomb with an unusable devise, using their mole, and at the last minute changed their minds and allowed the terrorits to build the real bomb!
I noted how we’re supposed to think it was negligence or some “intelligence failure”. But then, they also said the same thing about Iraq. And it’s easily demonstrable that this is false, that there was no such “intelligence failure”. Quite the opposite.
The evidence of a massive cover up would seem to indicate the same is true of 9/11. Take the 9/11 Commission report’s assertion that it’s not important who financed the terrorists. Hmm… What about Mahmud Ahmed and the $100,000 he reportedly sent to Mohammed Atta? Not a peep. Not important, anyway.
As for WTC7, I noted that, whatever the motive, all one need do is WATCH the collapse to realize that the most plausible explanation is controlled demolition. Maybe this sounds far out, but think about it. For a building to collapse like that, straight into it’s own footprint, all major load-bearing columns must be cut at the same time. So, if we dismiss the demolition theory, how do we explain what we see? I haven’t yet heard an alternative plausible explanation.
I also noted that the fact that some of the hijackers are still alive is of more relevance than Blum made it out to be, that his own explanation that the identities had been stolen is not sufficient to explain the further questions that then arise if we assume this to be true.
Etc., etc., I’ll stop for now. Just a few thoughts I felt compelled to share.
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 03/23 at 06:45 AMWell, speak of the devil. Just a moment ago, I read this article:
<url=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060313/asp/nation/story_5962372.asp>Pakistan weekly spills 9/11 beans</url>
That might explain a few things (see above post).
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 03/23 at 07:16 AMOops. Sorry, my code didn’t work:
There. That’s better.
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 03/23 at 07:17 AMI find the 9/11 conspiracy stuff tedious. If people in the Bush Administration plotted it, would a rational society remove those responsible from their place---any place---in society? Damn straight.
Ditto if those same people didn’t plot it, but knew about it.
Ditto if those same people didn’t know about it, but encouraged through antagonistic foreign policy.
Ditto if they didn’t encourage it, but failed to prevent it.
Ditto if they embrace, encourage, and profit from ecocide, militarism, systemic racism, the general rape of the Global South and failure to do shit about preventable diseases, the lack of universal access to healthcare, and so on and so forth.
Should 99% of the goddamn US Government and their corporate cronies be sent naked to the moon, to finally leave us in peace? Yes. But they didn’t have to plot 9//11 to deserve it. They just had to be themselves.
Anyway. Here’s some light entertainment for y’all.
Posted by Keir on from The Hague 03/23 at 07:27 AMI don´t know Keir, when Date Movie is the No.1 film it´s muzzy to hypothesise what a “rational” society would or would not do.
Posted by Owen on from Barcelona 03/23 at 07:47 AMGreetings Owen, Keir, Jeremy, Mickey, and all yet to arrive.
Blum’s latest is one of my favorites in his series.
I don’t know if the government “did” 9/11 or if they just provoked the others to the point that they believed that they had no better alternative. In either case, it has to be admitted that there are those who benefited from it. Just follow the money. If the government did not do it, they sure did know how to use it to enrich themselves.
This morning Democracy Now ran the story that we talked about here at Mickey’s a few days ago, the story about the executions of the civilians. Amy also aired some photos. I thank her for that.
Also, very special thanks to Amelopsis for her superb detective work. She is sooo smart. She has come up with some very interesting information about my legal cases. I am blessed to have so many smart friends here at Mickey’s.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 03/23 at 09:11 AMSorry Owen, I wasn’t paying attention. I was busy Googling Jessica Simpson or whatever. Also, I don’t know any Greek. What did you say?
Posted by Keir on from The Hague 03/23 at 09:12 AMMorning Everyone,
I’ve only checked Blum and Abolitionist links so far...the rest will be throughout the day.
Keir I think you’re giving the US public far too much credit by calling them ‘rational’ and far too little credit to the administration in respect to their collusion with the Sept. 11th bombings or whatever one wants to call it. They have far too much to gain from that entire episode and the US public was all too willing to ‘defend themselves’. Now that they know different, is there significant change? Apathy all around while they check the stock market and enjoy investing in the military industrial giants who’ll throw them a penny for every million they pocket.
Today in Brussels:
http://tinyurl.com/j8m4f
background:
http://tinyurl.com/hoa94Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 03/23 at 09:17 AMI was simultyping - Hi Rosemarie
Really you’re giving me WAY too much credit - straight up freeware did the job. (but I’m glad it could help by passing it on)
Jessica’s old news! - what about America’s Top Model or Survivor"------------" (wherever the hell they are now)who’s Jlo eating dinner with.
eesh.
All this business this morning about the Christian Peacemakers being miraculously rescued is also making me suspicious. I’m glad they’re freed, of course, but I wonder about the whole operation.
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 03/23 at 09:23 AMDon’t misunderestimate me. All kidding aside, read what I wrote (#4). A rational society would remove from power those rat bastards, 9/11 or no. Ours will not.
People can chase down 9/11 all they want, but the rat bastards are rat bastards even without the warmaking. Why try to pin something on them that’s so difficult to prove, when you’ve got other verifiable evidence for other massive crimes right under your nose? That’s the point I’m trying to make. On environmental policy alone, the whole of the US Government is deep in the wrong, and their crimes constitute (in my humble opinion) a war of aggression against every damn living thing…
...captcha is children.
Posted by Keir on from The Hague 03/23 at 09:28 AMWas that Helen Thomas interview truncated? Seemed like there should have been more of it. I’ll check later; CO hot link Thursday don’t get me fired…
Posted by James on from work 03/23 at 09:38 AMOff topic… Just noticed this on Drudge from FOX news. The Dixie Chicks are getting death threats. I never listen to popular radio (and probably never heard the Dixie Chicks) but I think I will start calling the stations and requesting that they play the album so others will hear it.
“...In the same song, lead singer Natalie Maines warbles: “It’s a sad, sad story when a mother will teach her/Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger.”
I’ve heard the album, called “Taking the Long Way,” due out May 23, and it’s a potential blockbuster. “Not Ready to Make Nice” is already making inroads on country radio after being leaked last week....” Taken from Drudge.Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 03/23 at 09:45 AMHello all! 9/11 conspirac theories are tiresome to me too, Keir. I don’t think it matters how deep the theorists dig, there will be doubt until the long view of history takes over. Can’t hurry time.
I haven’t done the Link-o-rama yet, I want to leave the phone lines free for all those six-figure job offers sure to come now that I’m employed again! Signing off until the afternoon.
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 03/23 at 09:58 AMI don’t know. When a crime on the scale of the 9/11 attacks occurs, I don’t think it’s ever wearisome to explore the truth. If we’re speaking of baseless theories without any factual substantiation, I could agree such speculating is wearisome. On the other hand, if we’re talking about questions or conclusions based upon the available facts, I don’t think it’s wearisome at all. On the contrary, I think it’s vitally important that we do so.
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 03/23 at 10:49 AMMickey, thanks for posting the link for the rally for a Car-Free Summer in Central Park this Sunday, March 26, at noon on the steps of City Hall. All who want a car-free park should attend as a demonstration of support. We’re close to getting this. RSVP at http://www.carfreecentralpark.org
Posted by Ken Coughlin on from New York City 03/23 at 12:03 PMoff topic (is anything, really?)
Canadian special JTF2 forces are in Iraq.
Again, I’m angry.
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 03/23 at 12:08 PMThat Abolitionist article about Peta is very confusing; must read more throroughly at home. Peta’s often seemed like an odd, over-funded group (saying this as vegan, etc.), but here they’re mentioned as being “not an animal-rights organization”... what is their purpose, anyway?
Posted by James on from work 03/23 at 12:15 PMAbout 911, I find the idea that three buildings with asymmetrical fires managed to burn at such mathematically harmonious points as to make each one collapse neatly into its own footprint a bit too Alice In Wonderland for me.
Posted by Owen on from Barcelona 03/23 at 12:42 PMWhat can I say but: thanks for all those links, Mickey - and a warm ‘hi’ to Jeremy, Keir, Owen, Rosemary, Amelopsis, Mudge, James and Ken Loughlin.
Here’s Helga’s link: Lewis Lapham lays out the case for impeachment of GWB -
http://billtotten.blogspot.com/2006/03/case-for-impeachment.htmlBye ..
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 03/23 at 02:00 PMAnd I am angry, too, Amelopsis - and Australian troops took part in the illegal invasion back in March 2003. Our federal government is worse than the Blairites in that it follows BushCo. slavishly wherever they go.
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 03/23 at 02:07 PMHello Expendables. Thanks for all the great comments and links. Again, I ask you to forgive my absence. Let’s hope that once we’re moved in and have made a quick visit to my family in Texas, things will get back into a routine of sorts.
Anyway, in the few minutes I have I’d like to say that when it comes to 9/11, I’m not sure what happened and, as I’ve stated before, the only thing that would surprise me from our gov’t is altrusim. As fo now, I tend to agree with this from Keir: Why try to pin something on them that’s so difficult to prove, when you’ve got other verifiable evidence for other massive crimes right under your nose?
Welcome to the site, Ken. I haven’t forgotten about interviewing you...I’m just swamped. Good luck with the rally on Sunday.
As for PETA, James, I believe Gary Francione is differentiating between animal reformers and animal rightists. I wish I had time to discuss this but perhaps soon.
I’ll be back later.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 03/23 at 02:28 PMThe problem with Cdn troops being in Iraq is that the only way the cdn public is finding this out is through the MSM! Our govt. is even refusing to confirm these facts.
It’s outrageous!
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 03/23 at 04:38 PMI’m with you on the aspect of there being plenty of reasons why the US administration should be hauled up on charges without needing to prove something as difficult as 11 Sept. 01
HOWEVER…
Since they’ve used that one day as a reason and excuse for so many of the recent atrocities, I do think it’s important to keep the discussion ongoing. I don’t think it’s necessarily important to prove any thing - and it likely can’t be done at this stage anyhow since the evidence has been destroyed in the case of the buildings themselves. There are many unanswered questions and if we’re to accept this ‘reason for self defense’ then they should simply release a few of the area surveillance tapes and be done with it.
I don’t think that it should be just swept aside, nor do I think that attention should be taken away from the myriad other war crimes past and present.Posted by Amelopsis on from Can't say - National Security Reasons 03/23 at 06:31 PMI agree in principle, Empress, but with one huge caveat. Whether we like it or not, those with alternative theories about 9/11 are easily dismissed by the mainstream. However, by focusing on war crimes, corporate welfare, etc., we have a better chance of reaching the “average American” in terms of waking people up. At that point, it might be easier to raise questions about “the day when everything changed.”
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 03/23 at 07:26 PMMickey, yes I think I get the idea with the different types of animal activists… it’s a good topic for discussion sometime, with analogies to other things here. As I understand the abolitionists, they’ll stand for nothing less than the well, abolishment of animal cruelty and slaughter altogether, so in the meantime, they figure it just deters them from their mission and is besides the point to campaign for any reforms that could make animals’ lives less tortured until the day they’re slaughtered. And I’m not sure, but there seems to be a lot of ego involved in that. Like with the auto-free cities campaigns, it’d be like if we can’t ban cars from all of manhattan anyway, why bother campaigning for any bike lanes here at all. Can’t rights, welfare and reform all be parallel goals? Or do activist groups just have too much fun bickering with each other? But it was a long day at work, still must read the Abolitionist site further…
Good luck with the move so far!
Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 03/23 at 09:13 PMTwo excellent questions, James: “Can’t rights, welfare and reform all be parallel goals? Or do activist groups just have too much fun bickering with each other?”
On that note, good night…
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 03/23 at 10:02 PMThanks… and from Americ’s Finest News Source:
Chicken Feeling BetterMarch 17, 2006 | Issue 42•12
DILLON, SC—A chicken at Perdue Farms’ Dillon plant downplayed reports of illness Tuesday, saying she was feeling much better. “I might have had a touch of some sort of flu, but I’m over my fever and keeping the ol’ corn down. B’cawk!” the broiler told trade journal Watt Poultry USA yesterday. “There’s absolutely no need to smother me in a trash bag or incinerate me whatsoever.” A Perdue spokesman said the chicken will soon resume her duties pecking at grain and being oblivious to her future as a cordon bleu sandwich.
Good night!Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 03/24 at 02:16 AM
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