Mickey Z
Cool Observer
Friday, September 29, 2006
Does anyone really need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?
if all of those things were to happen it would be something like only being shot in the head twice instead of three times.
its an improvement, but the odds don’t get a great deal better
Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 06:07 AMFirst of all, I want to say I’ve been reading this site for a few weeks now (and Mickey’s articles for awhile on other sites before heading over here) and I give it my seal of approval. There’s a lot of “dissident” writers out here in the wasteland of the internet and a lot of them are selling alternate versions of “the truth” that are no closer to being accurate than the retarded mainstream one that gives me several minor strokes every time I turn on a TV or pick up a newspaper. Mickey, you seem to be peddling good coin, so to speak, so, uh… good for you. And stuff.
As for today’s topic, I’m starting to think now it’s the time for Democrats to get back into control. I mean, the constant reelection of Republicans HAS to be straining the credibility of the voting system at this point and plus, who better to sell us on the next phase of the war than the good ol’ Democrats, who obviously only go to war as a last resort! Haha! Cuz they’re cowards, right?!
Of course, I’m basing all of this on the ridiculous assumption that anyone in power actually CARES about making this “democracy” look in any way that it still functions. I really geniunely fear that the mind control is so entrenched at this point that the media could sell the decaying corpse of Hitler as a progressive candidate. Or worse… the American people might actually be really voting Republican, with no electronic voting scams at all!
So, in summation, either way, we’re boned. But judging from the comments I’ve read here in the last few weeks, everybody here already knew that. Cheers!
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 06:39 AM...trying to wake up after up too late reading Sartre for book club on Sunday. Is it sleep deprivation, or does this seem way too funny for some reason:
His one about fast food cracked me up too. Off to “Steve” again soon…Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 09/29 at 06:59 AMGood morning michael, Banta, Mickey, and all yet to show up here. No, I don’t think that the things Mickey mentions would change anything. War, torture, pollution, injustice, hunger will continue and every once in a while people will go to the polls and vote and delude themselves into thinking that that will make a difference. That is the crux of the problem. Nothing that we could do would change things because there are not enough of us. Maybe it just comes down to numbers. If there were more of us and fewer of them, it would be easy. All that we would have to do is sit down or just stand still in the streets. The only hope is, the one chance in a trillion, that the rest of the world (the informed part) will rise up and boycott everything from the usa. Even that is unlikely now because of the entanglements brought about by the global economy. Was it Bugs Bunny who got it right when he said, “That’s all folks”.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 07:15 AMHi James. We were symultyping.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 07:15 AMHey… you know, “Steve” is a euphemism for where I work, because, well… back out to him now.
Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 09/29 at 07:29 AMMZ, five out of six potential changes on your list wouldn’t mean anything if they occurred. Nothing. Not a thing. That’s why I try---I try---not to get too bent out of shape about Democrats and Dick Cheney and Fox News and Osama bin Laden and what calls itself president now or in 2008.
But it would be meaningful if US military personnel in Iraq made the informed decision to refuse to be the murderous and criminal state security arm of the Thieve Oil and Blow Shit Up division of USA Inc. That would make some small difference.
Posted by Keir on from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 09/29 at 07:34 AMHello Expendables...from rainy Astoria. I’ve added some links to the original post in case you wanna have another look. The “president” link is in honor of our new visitor, Banta. Welcome. Hope you’ll make this a regular stop and regularly join in the conversations.
Keir: If the troops came home as you describe, yes, that could be somewhat meaningful. What I meant is the standard M.O., e.g. president brings them home to be honored as heroes and a proxy force handles the rest.
RMJ: I don’t think it’s just numbers. I think there actually is nothing major we can do within the parameters of this system, culture, society, whatever. Every gesture is tainted by our acceptance—tacit or otherwise—of the dominant culture. Until there are serious changes in how we live, the best we can hope for is reform (which of course, is still crucial in the short term).
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 09/29 at 07:46 AMI feel what would help would be greater familiarity with patterns of thought leave one open to manipulation, such as the delayed-gratification hoodwink people fall for everyday, whether it be from an institution political, educational or religious, i.e. put up with the shit now and tomorrow will bring a peaceful society/satisfying job/some heaven-valhalla-paradise-type place, it´s always tomorrow.
Another one I notice often played is to get folk to look outside their powerful selves for help during a crisis, such as right after a terrorist incident the government is always on hand with some draconian legislation had just been lying around waiting for such an event. I guess after all, it´s easy to catch someone who´s requesting of you that you just close off, play it safe and accept the authority of someone who knows better instead of looking to yourself for a solution.
Posted by owen on from barcelona 09/29 at 07:56 AMRMJ wrote:
“Nothing that we could do would change things because there are not enough of us. Maybe it just comes down to numbers. If there were more of us and fewer of them, it would be easy.”Definitely that’s a factor, but unforunately, there’s a bigger problem in America. I don’t know if any of you read Dave McGowan’s stuff (you should, it’s almost my life’s duty to pimp this guy), but here’s a selection from his most recent newsletter:
“So the problem is not that the American people don’t know what’s going on. And it’s not that they are too apathetic to care about fixing the problems once they recognize what those problems are. No, the real problem is that what is required to correct the course of this ship-of-state is a massive and sustained social movement. And the real question that needs to be asked is:how does a massive social movement arise in a nation that is almost completely devoid of any meaningful social networks?” http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr85.htmlMy solution? (which, to take the theme from Mickey’s post yesterday, I am NOT advocating!): Destroying all television broadcasts by using some sort of giant EMP. That should do the trick. See, there’s always answers!
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 08:04 AMMickey Z wrote:
“The “president” link is in honor of our new visitor, Banta. Welcome. Hope you’ll make this a regular stop and regularly join in the conversations.”
This is the nicest reception I’ve ever gotten in my life. *sniffs* I think I found myself a new home! You all better clear off the couch, cuz I’m gonna be crashing here for awhile.Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 08:08 AMMickey #8...hummmm, “serious changes in how we live”. Yes, that should be done because it just makes sense but that might not help much. If everyone stopped using oil today and the oil consumption dropped to zero, the Capitalists would find some other way of achieving their goal. Maybe the price of water would go up to $100 a gallon or the cost of a pound of beans would be $50. In a way, maybe it is good that the Capitalists focus so much on oil. We have already seen what happens when they focus on the food supply (Monsanto).
Keir #7… yes, it would help if they made informed decisions and refused to murder but they have been brain washed into believing that by murdering them, they become heroes themselves. So, even if all of those in uniform decided to stop killing, there would still be all of the “secret” non-uniformed, such as the CIA and all of those financed by the black budget who would continue the slaughter but I agree with your basic point.
Sorry to be so pessimistic. Today is one of those days that I have to drum up the feeling that its OK if nothing I do makes any difference. Sometimes acceptance of that stance helps fight off total despair. I have to remember that what I do is not to change “them”. It is so that they will not change me.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 08:10 AMHi Owen…
Banta...Not only TV. Tv causes a lot of brain wasting but the educational system is responsible for more of the brain washing. If people were taught in school the value of critical thinking, TV would not be as damaging. Does any usa high school teach an accurate view of usa history? I am still searching for just one.Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 08:21 AMOn a recent trip home to the midwest, I took a look around at increasing pace of the sprawling, big box, SUV and plasma screen culture that is most of America and wondered: What would be the threshold of gas prices that would shut this whole thing down? $10 a gallon? I mean, really, if the price of gas were suddenly $10 a gallon this whole fucking thing would have to change. I don’t think it is such a far fetched thing to happen either. The Middle East becomes more unstable, or one of the major oil refineries has an accident and goes off-line. On a personal and social level, real change is usually born of desperation. Sad but true.
Posted by Brian Howard on from Manhattan 09/29 at 08:35 AMRMJ, good point about the educational system, of course. All schools in the US, in addition to spreading pro-American factoids, are simply, at best, sources of useless trivia. There is never any effort made to teach the students how to apply the trivia, only conditioning to make the kids think that “hey, if I parrot something I read in a history book that makes me intelligent!” The funny thing is, judging by the apathy I see in the modern day student, I think on a certain level they realize that it’s b.s., but they never develop the critical skills to take these rumblings of a thought to the next level.
Still though, as bad of an effect the educational system has, I think that TV’s got it beat. If not for the zombie boxes, people might actually go outside more and… actually interact with each other! And then, I’d imagine, even as indoctrined with the culture as we all are from birth, the monkeys producing Shakespeare thing would happen eventually. Get everyone talking and eventually they’ll come to the realization, “you know, we’re all getting screwed!”
As our current situation stands, I think we might be in a unique point in human history where the masses are utterly incapable of even a subtle revelation, let alone a revolution. I pray I’m wrong.
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 08:38 AMHello everyone, welcome Banta. RMJ, have you read Endgame yet? If there is any book out there worth reading, this is it...and I would really like to hear your thoughts on it afterward.
To me, its basic premise is that yes, we are fucked. Civilization is going to come crashing down, it is only a matter of when and how hard. As Mickey says, we need to change the way we live...as in, learn how to live off the land base we occupy. When the whole thing comes down, we will no longer be able to take resources from elsewhere in order to sustain life where we are. Everyone will have to learn how to live off of what is around them without doing serious damage to life around them. It’s going to happen. He suggests we help it happen. Not by acting within the rules set up by our oppressive and violent society, but by our own rules. He goes into extensive detail on this. Those that do not want to participate in that, what some would consider violent action (others would consider a logical reaction against people and a system that is killing you and everything around you), should go about helping figure out ways to help people survive the crash of civilization. Whether that means teaching people how to grow gardens, identify edible foods or save the salmon.
Anyway, it is well worth the read.
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 08:40 AMAs much as I hate to walk away from this conversation, I must (for now). Two quick comments:
I second JOS’ book recommendation.
Also, I just found out that today is #30 for Expendable Michael. Please join me in wishing him a happy b’day.
As the governor of Cali sez: I’ll be back.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 09/29 at 09:15 AMthank you mickey
as it happens its onyl number 30 from one point of view. where i am in the world at the moment when you are born you start on 1 and not 0 so at home i would be 29 and over here i am 30
Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 09:32 AMAnybody else feel like their day has improved if Mokhiber and Weissman publish something? Bam! I love that shit.
Happy birthday Michael.
Posted by Keir on from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 09/29 at 09:40 AMGood morning one & all, welcome Banta and Happy Birthday to Michael.
Rather depressing subject today. Seems this tired & sick old world just keeps spinning in its’ tracks. Evil will always be with us and any good deed will never go unpunished.
Mickey if there were a change in government tomorrow, perhaps there would be some minor victories but as for a major transformation, I just don’t see it happening.
What to do, what to do?
Posted by Canadian Observer on from 09/29 at 09:53 AMJOS...No, I have not completely read it yet. My initial reaction is that it is a great book but maybe a little too optimistic. I hope that my initial impression is wrong but I guess that I have a problem with anyone who gives the impression that change is possible. Like I keep saying, I hope that I am wrong, but maybe the window of opportunity for change has been closed. I don’t know when that happened but I think maybe it was at least 50 years ago. Maybe it was the Industrial Revolution that did us all in. Maybe it was the “invention” of fire. Think about how lucky Adam and Eve were --- no plutonium, no corporations, no factory farming, no contaminated spinach, no traffic jams, free food for everyone. (I know, I know, most Expendables don’t believe bible stories but the mythical Adam and Eve sure had it made compared to all of us “civilized” folk who should know better.) Even, if Jensen is too optimistic there still is value in his work. Jensen, Mickey, you and all of us do what we do because it is better than the alternative.
michael...30 GREAT BIG HUGS TO YOU TODAY !!!
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 10:21 AMAs we say in Chicago...Hap-py Bert-day, Michael.
You know the funny thing about the SNL skit, Super Fans, about Chicago sports fans...they actualy do talk like that here. Go Bears.
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 10:23 AMthanks jos and rmj
jos, if u want exchange emails via mickey if he consents to such a thing and i will answer what u were saying at my site
Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 10:25 AMI hear you, RMJ. But for someone who believes (and I agree with you, and so does Jensen in a way) that it is already too late, you sure do a lot of good work trying to change things! I am just reading his thoughts on what he says when people say, why don’t you just kill yourself then? Why don’t you just party? Because no matter what it is worth a shot to go down fighting. Thank the gods for people like you and Mickey and the rest of us here or else I would go buy a lot of drugs and alcohol, find some like-minded women and a gun and have myself one last good time. (vulgar, I know, but I can;t help myself lately)
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 10:31 AMI don’t mind giving mine out here:
jmoshea at mac dot com
send me a mail, michael.
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 10:34 AMJOS #24… I am laughing so hard now that it makes my sides hurt. I love your comment! I was hoping that no one would notice that I am such an activist. At the moment I have 2 cases before the state supreme court and a political campaign going....and oh, I almost forgot, a possible prison sentence. Damn, I’m busy.
Let me know if you are ever going to have that one last fling. I’ll join you. “Because no matter what it is worth a shot to go down fighting”, that says it all. Better to die standing, than to live on your knees.Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 10:46 AMas i have previously intimated on this site, it won’t be the end of the earth, just the end of the earth as we know it
which in a weird way a lot of people find a scarier prospect - that of having their illusions shattered rather than their physical reality
welcome to the power of marketing
Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 10:49 AMHaha! I’m glad a got a laugh out of you, RMJ. I’ll let you know about the last hurrah if it ever comes.
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 10:50 AMI agree, michael. I wrote a poem about it the other day:
Yes
This is our world de down
In mutual mutilation towards
A massive self destruction
With much collateral damage
But when our time comes
Brought to us by our own hands
And minds
There will be an end
That no one will be left to witness
And there, words on a page
Will be meaningless
And steel will be strong for nothing
The bricks will be stacked
To nowhere
And wires will snake through the earth
Running to machines of insignificance
And the years will disappear
Because there never were any to begin with
And time will end its fraudulent reign
Life itself will forget us
And thrive once againPosted by JOS on from Chicago 09/29 at 10:52 AMnice jos, very nice
at the risk of being oblique
“time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so”
douglas adamsPosted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 10:57 AMHi Every Expendable!
Geez, the comment board is hot today.
Throwing this guy into the mix. Michael Tsarion, he’s extremely well researched and a very passionate speaker. This presentation is 3 hours long and densely packed with info from a wide range of sources and subjects. Some of which is going to come across as right on target and some of which is going to come across as lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe. Personally I’ve been listening to his interviews and docs for about two years now and find him to be a real inspirational speaker. He makes some great points here and is very thought provoking about what as a species / society we are going through and heading towards. I suggest checking him out. This is the darkest time our species has ever faced. Keep your heads about you. There is hope for the future. I’m certain of it.
Peace and Love!
LunaPosted by Luna_C on from the Delta 09/29 at 11:00 AMHoly hot comments today!
Quickly - Luna Michael Tsarion speaks on a very intersting range of topics in which I’m quite interested but I think he’s off track. Also I’ve been very put off by his claims to be singularly credible on certain things...uniquely qualified to speak by virtue of his heritage. Overall can’t say I like him, think some’s useful, and some’s disinfo.
Just my 2 cents there. (nice to see another Expendable’s ‘out there’ )Hi EveryExpendable old and new...no time today, but as usual I agree with most - change is not likely to make a difference.
Ciao for now
Captcha “STOP”
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 09/29 at 11:50 AMHi, Banta. Welcome. Re: #2, I would say that what strains the credibility of the voting system is that we have Republicans and Democrats to choose from as viable candidates in the first place!
Shengri kwai le Michael!
Posted by Jeremy on from Taipei 09/29 at 11:57 AMAmelopsis said:
“Also I’ve been very put off by his claims to be singularly credible on certain things...”This seems to be a major problem in the New Age/2012/Ascension crowd. Also, in cults! Or did I just repeat myself? (Hard to tell sometimes)
Luna, I’m watching this video right now and it is fairly interesting. I’ve been down this path many times, but his particular take on it is slightly unique. Obviously, not any more proveable than anyone else’s theory on human creation, but I’m always up for a new idea.
If any of you are interested in some (somewhat) scientific data to back up the 2012 stuff and other basic insights into the nature of reality, http://tinyurl.com/r67nu
All the online books there are a pretty interesting read, most of it is condensed reports of the works of Soviet scientists and others on what Western people would consider the fringe. Now, it is important to keep in mind that the man who put this stuff together takes a lot of liberties with his analysis of what it all means and is, in general, a massive tool (I’ve had dealings with him). But still, it’s worth checking out if you’re into that sort of stuff. And frankly, these days, we NEED something Godly to happen in 2012. In fact, I generally end most of my conversations about the state of the world with “Well, basically, mankind just needs to transcend.” Easy, right?
Jeremy said:
“Re: #2, I would say that what strains the credibility of the voting system is that we have Republicans and Democrats to choose from as viable candidates in the first place!”And now you’ve gone and thought too far into it! Two parties was good enough for my grandpappy and I’ll be a son of a gun if it won’t be good enough for me!
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 12:17 PMFantastic poem, JOS. I read it just now with the C-span debate on the House floor in the background. They are debating whether or not usa citizens should be “arrested” and held indefinitely (forever) with no Trial. Your poem was the perfect antidote for the sickness going on in Washington.
Hi Canadian Observer, Amelopsis, Jeremy, Luna and anyone I am missing.Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 12:22 PMI’m back. Hello again, gang. I gotta say that I’ve never heard Derrick Jensen described as “too optimistic.” That’s intense.
This is for Banta, courtesy of Arundhati Roy: “I think it is dangerous to confuse the idea of democracy with elections. Just because you have elections doesn’t mean you’re a democratic country.”
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 09/29 at 01:02 PMHey Amelo! I hear you. I’m more then a little questioning about his Velikovsky/Icke areas myself. Those topics are definitely out there and very difficult to prove either way let alone accept at face value. What I really appreciate about his work is his Jordan Maxwell related research into the secret societies and the mass mind manipulation going on today. As well as our true nature as human beings and how society is deliberately cutting us off from knowledge of our past and what is really going on in our present. I think it’s safe to say we really don’t know the full story of what’s happening in the world today and are like the blind men in the room with an elephant. Either way I do believe he has his heart in the right place and isn’t to the best of his ability trying to steer people in the wrong direction.
Heck it’s just nice to hear someone acknowledge that Humans by nature aren’t a violent species. I’ve felt in my heart for a very long time that that was gospel truth.
Thanks for the link Banta. I think of him more as part of what I would call the militant new age crowd. In that he does his research and backs his claims up with facts. He doesn’t just rely on pie in the sky intuition or channelled information.
Peace and love,
LunaPosted by Luna_C on from workies 09/29 at 01:13 PMMickey,
A good link AND a good quote in one day? You’re gonna spoil me.Luna said:
“I think of him more as part of what I would call the militant new age crowd. In that he does his research and backs his claims up with facts. He doesn’t just rely on pie in the sky intuition or channelled information.”
Well, when he isn’t making his case for being Edgar Cayce reborn by showing pictures of him and Cayce in the same pose. I mean, I sort of look like my dog when I do it that way.The science IS good though and there’s a lot to be explored there. Although, I can’t say that there’s really a great case to be made for something happening in 2012… it’s all very circumstantial. The work dealing with the nature of matter is very convincing though.
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 01:35 PMHappy 29/30 Birthday Michael!!!!!
you share a birthday with Cervantes and Heidegger
Posted by TM on from 09/29 at 01:55 PMi just been out for 4 hours but got bored, it happens to me easily these days.
i just wanted to post some lyrics that sum up the experience english language teachers working abroad who have a brain and let things get at them have. its why some people find it difficult to get on with the expat community. sorry if it seems bitter
Don’t get me wrong
Don’t mind you shouting
Just think
your style excludes
The part that really mattersi Just grow tired
Of empty minds mouthing
English language courses
While they struggle with the a b c of hearts
And I confess
That all I’ve learnt
Has been learnt a
million times
By every empty heart
That ever felt a
song come homeBut I’d he happy
When next I ask the time
11 I find I’ve wasted none of mine
Listening while you wasted all of yours.Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 02:16 PMincidentally..
for al the arundathi roy acolytes out there. i just read a short story by aldous huxley where...if it wasnt the inspiration for the thing then it certainly has utterly the same vibe.
i am not trying to denegrate arunadathi by saying that at all- just that the although the background circumstances are completely different the idea is exactly the same
the huxley story is called “happily ever after” and it is the first one in the book of short stories called “the giaconda smile”
the similarites are striking but arundathi took it to a different and superb area. but don’t doss aldous
this is only part one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJ3TAnJM7Y&eurl=Posted by michael on from exile 09/29 at 02:29 PMHave I said Hellos to Banta? Seems I keep missing a couple of MZ’ers....and also TM.
Mickey...Churchill the poet, Jensen the optimist. Sure, why not? No matter how pessimistic a person is, its just not enough considering the reality of the situation.
michael you inspired me to look up this from the Dixie Chicks. Some troubling political events and death threats inspired these lyrics. They kind of express the way that I feel a lot of the time, I’m not ready to make nice....
Forgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waitingI’m through with doubt
There’s nothing left for me to figure out
I’ve paid a price
And I’ll keep payingI’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I shouldI know you said
Can’t you just get over it
It turned my whole world around
And I kind of like itI made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they’d write me a letter
Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be overI’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I shouldI’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I shouldForgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waitingPosted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 04:05 PMHere’s “Please Forgive Us” by Natalie Merchant (re: Central America in the 1980s)
Mercy, mercy, why didnt we hear it?
Mercy, mercy, why did we read it buried on the last page of our morning papers?
The plan was drafted, drafted in secret.
Gunboats met the red tide, driven to the rum trade for the army that they created.
But the bullets were bought by us, it was dollars that paid them.Please forgive us, we dont know what was done in our name.
Therell be more trials like this in mercenary heydays.
When theyre so apt to wrap themselves up in the stripes and stars
And find that they are able to call themselves heroes
And to justify murder by their fighters for freedom.Please forgive us, we dont know what was done.
Please forgive us, we didnt know.
Could you ever forgive us?
I dont know how you could.
I know this is no consolation.Please forgive us, we didnt know.
Could you ever believe that we didnt know?
Please forgive us, we didnt know.
I wouldnt blame you if you never could, and you never will.Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 09/29 at 04:24 PMThanks for that one, Mickey. I had never heard that one before. I like it.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 04:34 PMRMJ said: “Have I said Hellos to Banta?”
Indeed you did, early this morning and you were the first. I’ll take all the greetings I can get though.
I have to say, this might just be the friendliest place in the whole internet. Really, gives me some hope, which leads me to…
RMJ said: “No matter how pessimistic a person is, its just not enough considering the reality of the situation.”
This is undoubtably true, however, you sound much like a friend of mine, who understands the plight of our world as much as anyone. He lives in a constant cloud of darkness, which I can never fully understand. I do not like to see him that way, but I have long realized that there really is nothing one can say. Every rational thought process I have lead to the same horrible conclusions, but yet, I maintain some level of “faith” that even that which is most improbable, perhaps even impossible, can stil happen. Unforunately, that “faith” cannot be transferred, so I will extend you the same courtesy that I do my friend and not question your right to pessimism.
I hope I have not gotten too heavyhanded in my first day here. I’m in a pretty reflective mood today for some reason. I better check to see if someone didn’t spike the water supply.
Posted by Banta on from Inner Circle of Hell 09/29 at 05:20 PMI’ll see everyone later. Michele and I are headed out to see The U.S. vs. John Lennon.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 09/29 at 05:22 PMBanta...yes, I agree that this might be the friendliest place on the Internet. I have seen some of the other sites and don’t like the way some bloggers relate to each other. Here everyone is great and we all feel free to disagree when we want. It’s like a super-functional family. Everyone’s views are respected even when they are not agreed with.
I admire “faith” when others have it. I find joy in a lot of ways....sometimes in the natural beauty that surrounds me. Right now my computer is facing a window. Outside the reflections from the setting sun have made the puffy clouds look like pink cotton balls floating in an ever darkening sky.
Mickey...that sounds like a good one. I have heard about it. Please give us a full report on
The US v JL.Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/29 at 05:46 PMWe just watched I Heart Huckabees, thought it was pretty good.
Hey since we’re doing lyrics today, my all-time number one. I think it’s obvious it’s not a love song. . .
I once had a life, or rather
Life had me
I was one among many
Or at least I seemed to be
Well, I read an old quotation in a book just yesterday
Said “Gonna reap just what you sow,
The debts you make you have to pay.”
Can you get to that?I recollect with a-mixed emotions
All the good times we used to have
But you were making preparations
For the coming separation
And you blew everything we hadWhen you base your love on credit
And your loving days are done
Checks you signed with a-love and kisses
Later come back signed “insufficient funds”
Yeah, get to that!---Can You Get To That, Funkadelic 1971
Posted by Keir on from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 09/29 at 06:33 PMsorry, should have said more than a love song
Posted by Keir on from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 09/29 at 06:35 PMYes, Z
All that happens, things will change. They’ll get worse.
Especially if the dumbocrats “take back” congress - same policies, same puppetmasters. Just a lot better at putting a successful lying spin on everything.
**sigh**
Posted by ddjango on from 10/02 at 01:41 PMI am sighing right along with you, ddjango.
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