Mickey Z

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Sunday, October 01, 2006

G.I. Joe has been Punk'd

Posted by Mickey Z on 10/01 at 06:23 AM
  1. Good morning All. That is another great article, Mickey.”...We grow up watching war movies and playing with guns. We’re surrounded by war memorials and war monuments, and are taught to respect and fear those in uniform...”. I will be linking vets to it. That is also a very nice photo.

    Amopolis, from last nite...No, the little critters never survive their high wire act. Out of respect here, I will not describe what an exploded body of a squirrel looks like.

    Right now my ISP is having problems. This time it is not my computer. I had a lot of trouble connecting and now I cannot access my e-mail. This happens frequently. I hope they fix the problem soon.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 10/01  at  08:03 AM
  2. Good morning, RMJ...and hello to all soon-to-arrive Expendables from a rainy NYC. I wish I had something useful to say, re: computers...but I just know enough to usually keep mine happy. All I can say to you (and everyone else here who is experiencing issues) is good luck.

    Also, last night, someone asked about what book each of us is reading and in my post today, I mentioned what music I was listening to. All this sounds like it could be an interesting exercise for today.

    As for me, I’m not reading any one book now and I just got a pile of review copies in the mail. I’ll pick one to start today.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 10/01  at  08:19 AM
  3. Hi Mickey...my ISP is still having problems. I am happy that I can at least access the Internet. Today I am looking into “protections” for whistle-blowers. I think of myself as that, much more than a candidate. Tomorrow I will be interviewed for VT Public Radio. I have been invited to the debate which will be aired on Tuesday but I will not be able to make it to the other end of the State (because my car was totaled by the government). VPR very kindly offered to do a taped phone interview of me and air it on the same broadcast. I especially appreciate that because, thus far, all newspapers in VT have refused to publish my official statement. Here’s something that should concern anyone who still thinks that there is “democracy” in the usa. In my town, a public taxpayer supported firehouse is being used for partisan political forums. No third party candidates are allowed to participate, even if that party has qualified for “major Party status” under Vt law. It is all legal. That’s the way that those in power protect their turf and limit the discourse.

    If I was listening to music today I would be listening to Erroll Garner. There is another piece that I sometimes use to change my thought pattern. It is the theme from the movie “The Perfect Storm”. There is something very energizing about it. I often listen to it before a meeting with a government-type person.

    I hope that everyone keeps warm today. It is 55 degrees in my house right now. My hands are getting numb. I hope that Chavez will be kind and generous to us again this winter.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 10/01  at  09:56 AM
  4. Just you and I, huh RMJ? That sucks about you missing that debate. I would’ve loved to see it. I wish I could arrange a NYC event and have you down to take part.

    Btw, I think this is the book I’ll read. I got the review copy a while back and have been hesitant to read something by a senator. But, it’s time to give it a try.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 10/01  at  10:47 AM
  5. Good morning Mickey and RMJ,
    GI Joe being punked brought to mind something I saw yesterday on a kids’ show here...propaganda piece centered around virtual training for soldiers.  Really just a video game that you play while sitting in a large piece of expensive military equipment.  It was very disturbing.  The young kids are brainwashed by the charming and exciting presentation of the life of a well trained soldier.  Really made me mad.

    Today’s a new day in the computer saga - hope to be on from the new machine a little later. 

    I’m listening to some no brainer music I like...some Foo Fighters.

    Adios for now friends smile

    (RMJ - I wish I owned the cable company in Vermont - I’d get you broadband access in 2 days flat...and owned the power too...no more squirrel hazards and black outs)

    Posted by Amelopsis  on  from Canada 10/01  at  10:59 AM
  6. Man, I went like five years without listening to Zep. So when I was in the States in August, I made sure to rip all my CDs to my computer. I listened to “When the Levee Breaks” just the other day for the first time in ages and remembered what an excellent tune that is--actually I think I appreciated it more than I ever had before.

    Good article, MZ. Whenever I’m confronted with the “Support Our Troops” thing, I always say. “I support our troops. I supported them by saying they shouldn’t go to die for a lie in the first place, and I support them now by saying they should come home.” Or something along those lines.

    Of course, living in Taiwan, (needless to say), I’m not confronted with that very often. But every time I go home (such as in August), I am awed by the number of yellow ribbons I see on cars. “Support Our Troops”. What does it mean? I always ask myself. Does in mean we should support wars of aggression? Isn’t that really what it means? Imagine banners hanging from apartment windows in Berlin during WWII with “Support Our Troops” written on them. Americans would rightly have pointed out the blind patriotism of it, as well as the immorality of supporting Nazi aggression and war crimes. Any German who stood up to say “I will not support Hitler’s war!” would be regarded as a hero.

    Though not, of course, in Nazi Germany. And thus it is in the U.S. I suppose the worst they can do is call us “unpatriotic”. I’ve been called worse.

    In this day and age, that’s actually quite the compliment.

    Posted by Jeremy  on  from Taipei 10/01  at  11:12 AM
  7. My ‘little’ cousin is in the military and has been to Iraq several times.  As a kid he fell in love with the jungle gym allure of G.I. Joe.  This was a kid who wouldn’t dare go on a roller coaster at Walt Disney World when he was 12.  So right out of high school he saw the military as the perfect place to fulfill the promise and expectation of what it means to be manly. 

    And, yes, ‘puter problems ARE A GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS.  I have had my own interesteing adventures too.  The sun is coming out real nice here in the state of ohio on this early afternoon.  see y’awl, peace.

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  11:27 AM
  8. Hi Amelopsis and Jeremy. Sill no access to E-mail. I’m isolated from the world except for here at Mickey’s. It’s amazing how dependent we all become on this technology.
    That looks like a good book, Mickey. I wonder if he will acknowledge that part of the problem for the usa worker is the lack of universal health care. That one issue is important not only for the workers but also for the companies that employ them. I never understood why the politicians have caved in to the lobbyists for the insurance companies and why the labor force and the companies that used to employ them has allowed that to happen without even a whimper of dissent. Must be that the bottom line is not hurt too much for the companies. I also wonder if the author will be respectful of the foreign laborers who have gotten the jobs. It’s not their fault.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 10/01  at  11:42 AM
  9. Good day, all.

    The biggest problem with the “Support the Troops” is that the entire phrase is tied in with “support the mission” without saying so. To say to most that you don’t support the troops is the same as saying that you wish that all of the soldiers would get killed.

    Also, to whoever recommended watching What the Bleep a few days ago, I did. It was pretty good, although it didn’t really tell me anything that I hadn’t known before and it wasn’t really done the way that I would have done it (but what is, I suppose). I didn’t see the movie couldn’t be a straight up documentary, the storyline involving the deaf woman didn’t really add anything. Also, I probably wouldn’t have included Ramtha in it… almost seems self-discrediting for a film that was clearly designed to try and reach a more conventional audience. On the plus side, I think the part describing the electron double-slit experiment was very well done; it was the most succinct and easily understandable way I’ve ever seen it presented.

    Posted by Banta  on  from Inner Circle of Hell 10/01  at  11:47 AM
  10. Hi dw...we were symultyping. Yep, most people have an unrealistic view of what the military is really like. It is a very good career for those who don’t want to think for themselves, that is unless they have qualms about murdering civilians.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 10/01  at  11:47 AM
  11. I said:"I didn’t see the movie couldn’t be a straight up documentary,”

    There should be a “why” in this sentence. Add it where you see fit.

    Posted by Banta  on  from Inner Circle of Hell 10/01  at  11:50 AM
  12. Banta, I had much the same view of the Bleep movie. I agree with your review.

    Hi RMJ. Hope technology is friendlier to you soon.

    I was just reminded of an incident not long ago. (I know, I’m late-shoulda posted this on Saturday for storytelling).

    I walked past the front desk at work, where my employer was sitting around he computer showing a crowd of students (I teach English here) something. Whatever it was seemed very funny to them, but especially to my boss.

    “Wanna see something funny?” he said to me as I passed.

    “Sure,” I naturally responded, walking over to view a picture he had up on the screen.

    “My brother sent this to me,” he explained. His brother is in Iraq. On the screen was a photo showing the front of a tank on a road. A little further up the road was a white car-completely crushed by the track of the tank. Included was a comment: “That’s what I think of those shitty Toyota Corollas!”

    “Wow,” I said, quite dumbfounded. He was still laughing.

    I looked around at the kids staring at the screen, laughing. Grief came over me.

    “That’s not a very nice thing to do,” I said. “Any particular reason he did that?” I asked.

    My boss turned around. “I suppose his logic is it’s one less car to use in a suicide bombing.”

    In a heartbeat, I thought, “Well, has your brother ever considered that maybe if he didn’t run around destroying Iraqi peoples’ property, they might not want to kill him so badly? Has he considered that perhaps if he didn’t willingly participate in a war of aggression, he might not be in that position where his life is in danger?”

    But I didn’t say anything. I just shrugged, turned around and walked away, haunted by the incident for the rest of the day.

    Posted by Jeremy  on  from Taipei 10/01  at  12:06 PM
  13. BANTA, JEREMY RE The Bleep movie:  I went back and watched certain parts a few more times after I initially saw it (meaning I didn’t sit and watch the whole way through, over and over again - although it doesn’t hurt to do that.).  It’s not just refreshing to consider what some of the ideas are actually saying, but intensely hopeful.  In my opinion, it’s hopeful because we know that all of us have this “Buddhist” type mechanism in the brain.  It takes a little going back and reviewing some of the discussion.  You will find out that creating harmony around us doesn’t have to be so depressing and complicated.  It’s really quite simple, but requires a devotion to patience, love and openness.  Without adherence to these three parts we revert back to the same old mindless habits and addictions.  We can teach ourselves how to break right through all the preconceived notions we carry around about ourselves and elevate our consciousness along the way!  Pretty cool thought, wouldn’t you say?

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  12:45 PM
  14. Foggy and very cool here in the Bay Area today. Almost feels like fall...until our next heat wave.

    No computer problems, just ISP annoyances. We switched to AT&T a few months ago in order to cut costs (their package deal was half of what we were paying). I feel like such an asshole. Their service is terrible, their payment cycle is bizzare and I feel rotten for supporting one of the worst corporations in America. And the DSL line is soooooo slow compared to cable. Feel free to ridicule me; I deserve it.

    Right now I’m listening to the SIRIUS Classical station (came with the AT&T satellite package)station. I generally leave it on for hours.

    The SigOt and I are reading aloud “A History of The Arab Peoples” by Albert Hourani to each other. We figure it would be best to be somewhat informed about a part of the world’s history that is not taught in this country and has now become so important.

    Last week the Marine Corps set up a recruiting table in the quad. They also had a chin-up bar and were inviting students to demonstrate...I have no idea what the hell they were asking students to prove with the damn thing. Anyway, one of my tasks at TinkerToy PolyTechnic is to drive disabled students around campus and I was on one of my runs when I spied the Marines. It did cross my mind to run over their table, but I have such a perfect driving record and a rather transparent set of politics that it would have been near impossible to excuse it as “operator error.” Now if the College Republicans put up a table next to the Marines, I might try for the doubleplay ball and blame it on my meds.

    Posted by The CultureGhost  on  from Concord, CA 10/01  at  12:56 PM
  15. I just want to say that I think many of us are pretty good “Buddhist” type thinkers already.  I think individually, a lot of us don’t easily revert back to mindless habits and addictions.  But it’s about a sharing your life to teach this with others.  Sometimes this means being very forward with your message and not so much like a guru subtley blessing one on the head.

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  12:57 PM
  16. CultureGhost...don’t beat your self up so about the decision to go with AT&T. In my view, they are all pretty bad. I went with Verizon high speed awhile back because everyone told me it was the slow dial-up that was doing me in. Verizon sent me all of the necessary equipment and “instructions” on how to install it. It was a nightmare. When it wouldn’t work, I kept calling tech support. Of course they told me that it was my fault and that I had made a mistake in the way I installed everything. I believed them because I know that I don’t know what I’m doing around a computer. After several weeks and a hundred phone calls to tech support all around the world, I finally got a Verizon tech in Canada who instantly, on the phone, diagnosed the problem. I was OUTSIDE the area covered by DSL but Verizon thought that my area was in. When I called Verizon to tell them that, I also told them that they owed me $ for being THEIR tech support. They paid my next phone bill.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 10/01  at  01:41 PM
  17. Hello Mickey and all, I’m here via your revolution article posted on ICH. Thanks for speaking out!  Yesterday, at the Goodwill store two women were talking about how impatient, irritable, and distracted people have become. This generalization has become all too common. Well duh, I think a lot of people are worried, ill at ease, and not quite able to come to grips with what is happening. I think we have a responsibility to bear witness to the truth of the criminal actions of the federal government. A few kind words of truth spoken in love go a long way, as does a sincere smile, a caring heart, and some humor is good too. Whenever I am aware of discord, I respond this way. We all need some caring, and I think y’all are ambassadors of goodwill.

    Posted by Karen  on  from Oak Ridge, Tennessee 10/01  at  02:17 PM
  18. Nice article Mickey. On a Sunday no less. Time to resurrect an Expendable mantra: INFORM THE TROOPS!

    Amelopsis, from last night, I know whatcha mean about the internet being a tool to find out about things in the world, about it being a quick n easy resource. . .

    One thing: via the internet, how much do I not learn about the world? I communicate with people with whom I agree that to prevent (or maybe more correctly survive) disaster our culture needs to change radically. We should cultivate our own food locally, for example. But it’ll be 100 years before I go out to the garden and grow some beans; I’m too busy here discussing how important doing so is.

    Another thing: the internet is a zoo. Yes, I learned to respect non-humans and plants by spending many, many hours at the Bronx Zoo and others as a kid, but I still think a zoo is a foul idea. Awful. Is my having compassion for chimpanzees worth their suffering? Via internet, sitting behind my computer, I’ve learned all about the violence my internet-addicted computer culture does to the world. For every Amelopsis using the internet as a tool to learn about the world she engages with, there’s a hundred SUV-driving kickball moms on xanax making online donations to their church’s ‘support the troops’ bakesale or whatever. It ain’t right. But here I am.

    Today I listened to Glenn Gould’s 1955 recording of JS Bach’s Goldberg Variations. I cannot recommend that recording highly enough, regardless of what you normally listen to. Then for contrast, from my (teenage) past, Jane’s Addiction’s Nothing’s Shocking. Lyrics. . .

    . . .The TV’s got them images
    TV’s got them all
    it’s not shocking!
    Every half an hour
    someone’s captured and
    the cop moves them along
    It’s just like the show before
    the news is just another show
    with sex and violence. . .

    Posted by Keir  on  from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 10/01  at  04:08 PM
  19. Jeremy, One of the best books I read this year was ‘Fallen Soldiers’. Esp. interesting is the “process of trivialization” and normalization that conditions people to see war and “combat” as a normal, ongong part of life. Tho a bit dated in details, many of these techniques are still very much with us, just as Leni Riefenstahl still lives…

    Posted by sk  on  from 10/01  at  04:34 PM
  20. Damn, I already had a great response written and the internet decided to eat it. Let me try this again.

    dw wrote: “We can teach ourselves how to break right through all the preconceived notions we carry around about ourselves and elevate our consciousness along the way!  Pretty cool thought, wouldn’t you say?”

    Most definitely. However, to take this further than what you’re implying, I believe there’s a danger involved in thinking that changing one’s outlook is enough to completely change the world around them. And in this, is where I have a problem with the teachings of the “new” spirituality that is around.

    For instance, in the movie, they discuss the Super Bowl between the Patriots and the Eagles. The players on both teams greatly desire a victory, but only one set of wills will win out. I think this is an important point, because it seems to me that many New Age type teachings seem to say (albeit indirectly), “change the way you think, be positive, and everything will work out in the end” with the implication that the universe will take care of itself. The problem is, are we not a part of the universe ourselves? Although your mental outlook is important and thoughts themselves may have a considerably stronger imfluence than most people would admit, I do not believe that this renders action useless. My fear is that many who get into this sort of line of thinking, even though that they are the ones in society who are smart and decent enough to do something about our current world situation, might end up spending more time trying to completely balance their own minds, while the outside world burns.

    Something that always strikes me is that although the teachers of these “new ways” seem to speak with such self-assurance that they are on their way to enlightenment, they still remain flesh and blood like the rest of us.

    Once again, dw, I’m not trying to imply this is what you meant at all, I’m simply sharing my opinion on some of the failings of the “New Age” movement and how, without even intending to, these failings serve the establishment’s goals.

    ...I think my original post was better, but this one will have to do.

    Posted by Banta  on  from Inner Circle of Hell 10/01  at  04:52 PM
  21. Oh yeah, the key point in me bringing up the Super Bowl in the previous post was to say that even if we all were to consciously focus on world peace and the end of class divisions in our society, there would be many wills focused against our thoughts, thereby rendering our intent useless.

    The first post I made was a lot better. You guys should have seen it, it was one for the ages! Or so I claim, at least…

    Posted by Banta  on  from Inner Circle of Hell 10/01  at  04:57 PM
  22. nice article, I particularly like this sentence: In reality, when we’re told to “support the troops,” we are, in essence, being compelled to support the policies that put those troops in harm’s way. (and supporting the killing and destruction of innocent lives.)

    Vintage Pilger: http://tinyurl.com/ptuhz (these are some victims of Kissinger)Kissinger gets around now he’s advising Bush on Iraq http://tinyurl.com/egfdl

    GUN SHY by Natalie Merchant (from the 10,000 Maniacs years)

    I always knew that you would
    take yourself far from home
    as soon as, as far as you could go

    by the quarter inch cut of your hair
    and the Army issue green
    for the past eight weeks
    I can tell where you’ve been

    well, I knew, I could see, it was all cut and dried to me
    there was soldier’s blue blood streaming inside your veins
    there is a world outside of this room and
    when you meet it promise me
    you won’t meet it with your gun

    so now you are one of the brave few
    it’s so awful sad we need boys like you
    I hope the day never comes for
    “here’s your live round son
    stock and barrel, safety, trigger, here’s your gun”

    well I knew, I could see, it was all cut and dried to me
    there was soldiers blue blood streaming inside your veins

    there is a world outside of this room and
    when you meet it promise me
    you won’t meet it with your gun taking aim

    I don’t mean to argue
    they’ve made a decent boy of you and
    I don’t mean to spoil your homecoming
    but baby brother you should expect me to

    “stock and barrel, safety, trigger, here’s your gun”

    so now does your heart pitter pat
    with a patriotic sound
    when you see the stripes of old glory waving?

    well I knew, I could see, it was all cut and dried to me
    there was soldier’s blue blood streaming inside your veins

    there is a world outside of this room and
    when you meet it promise me
    you won’t meet it with your gun taking aim

    I don’t mean to argue
    they’ve made a decent boy of you
    I don’t mean to spoil your homecoming my baby brother Jude
    and I don’t mean to hurt you by saying this again
    they’re so good at making soldiers
    but they’re not so good
    at making men

    Posted by TM  on  from 10/01  at  05:32 PM
  23. BANTA, the important thing is that we’re trying to go deeper, instead of the same played out directions, left, middle or center, yes?  I think I see what you mean by other wills rendering our intent useless.  I don’t know if we necessarily have to engage others to the point that they may feel like they’re trying to be converted.  In other words, I’m not saying that there wouldn’t be conflict and disagreement.  But there’s a certain kind of assurance in knowing that one can liberate his or her mind while experiencing this with others at the same time.  Let me clarify what I mean by “experiencing this.” Mickey made a reference to the Situationists in his main post yesterday.  I must confess that I know little about the history of Situationalism but the general philosophy seems excellent.  One’s actions are guided and determined by an intrinsic value of love.  It’s not that people are separating themselves from others but instead are creating a reality based on this way of thinking.  It’s living in the moment for the purpose of knowing what’s most important.  Then we use language and actions that express certain decisions, which transform not only ourselves, but the future of our species and the fragile planet which supports us.  It was the guy in Bleep sitting by the fireplace who describes this well.  I think many of us do this a lot without realizing it.  There’s a scientific reason why we’re able to create our own reality, which most of us will never fully understand (I know I won’t).  But what’s key is that we DO understand enough.

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  06:36 PM
  24. TOTALLY off topic. . .

    Anyone see this yet? Thank the motherfucking lord slicing a mouse’s brain up produced such stunning imagery, otherwise it’d be a shame. Some creep-o grad student needs to carve up an animal and take pictures to prove its place in the universe. As though walking into your kitchen late at night and seeing it scamper into a hole in the wall isn’t enough. What. The. ####.

    Posted by Keir  on  from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 10/01  at  06:43 PM
  25. Great post - and great article, Mickey!  And so enlightening what Henry Kissinger had to say ..

    ‘HI’ to all you expendables from a very sunny Daylesford - tomorrow we are expecting temperatures around 78F again, and summer is still two months away.

    Be well,
    Helga

    Posted by Helga Fremlin  on  from Daylesford, Australia 10/01  at  07:49 PM
  26. Hello Expendables. Sorry I missed all the conversation. I’m just stopping in to say hello to Karen. Hope you’ll spread the word and return.

    I’ll see everyone tomorrow with some apocalyptic links.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 10/01  at  08:47 PM
  27. I would like to extend an invitation to you to join in on a collective blogging section of our upcoming winter issue of Reconstruction.  The issue is the “Theories/Practices of Blogging.” In addition to the special section of posts on blogging there will be about a dozen essays on blogging.

    The deadline is October 20th.

    Our intent in this section of the issue will be to collect a wide range of bloggers and link up to their statements in regards to why they blog (something many of us are asked) and any statement they have on the theories/practices of blogging.

    If you already have a post on this you can feel free to use it, or, if you are interested, you can submit a new one.

    We will link to each statement from the issue at our site, with the intent of creating a hyperlinked list of statements on blogging that can serve as an introduction to blogging (or an expansion of knowledge for those already blogging).

    If you are interested please contact me at mdbento @ gmail.com

    On another note:

    Thanks for your two books 50 American Revolutions and Seven Deadly Spins, the first I assigned to my writing students (with great success) to inspire them to research and write about a hidden/controversial history, and the second which I have handed to many of my students writing about contemporary propaganda/spin tactics

    Posted by Michael Benton  on  from Lexington, KY 10/01  at  09:31 PM
  28. Thanks, Michael. I am e-mailing you something now.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 10/01  at  09:33 PM
  29. sk, looks like an interesting read.

    dw, it’s interesting you describe it as a “Buddhist” thing. I don’t disagree, but I think Jesus was trying to tell us much the same message. “The kingdom of heaven is at hand.” I think few people understand the importance of his words. I think the church in general tends to obfuscate his meaning more than clarify it.

    Posted by Jeremy  on  from Taipei 10/01  at  09:51 PM
  30. Hey Jeremy,
    Of course that message threatens our consumerist culture for Capitalism would give way to another ideology.  But it is not any kind of ideology, faith, or religion that keeps people in line it’s a behavior.

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  10:13 PM
  31. Thanks Mickey,

    I replied with a longer response about how I use your books in my courses and yes we will definitely include your contribution--Thanks for the quick response!

    Posted by Michael Benton  on  from Lexington, KY 10/01  at  10:40 PM
  32. Evening all,

    I spent a good deal of time today entertaining ourselves on the spanking new rocket launcher and there’s a whole lot of talk here for a Sunday!  Too much to catch up with all of it.

    Haven’t seen the ‘bleep’ movie, and from everything I’ve looked at and read and from the Expendables’ comments on it I don’t think I’m in a rush to see it.  As I read through the comments I was trying to formulate something concise to say on the matter and Jeremy’s last fit a large part of the bill:

    "I think few people understand the importance of his words. I think the church in general tends to obfuscate his meaning more than clarify it."
    Furthermore, love, compassion, patience, all that ‘good stuff’ is all fine and well, but it’s not going to ‘fix’ anything except one’s own mood.  There are FAR too many manipulations on the other end side of the yin yang for good intentions to be the answer.  Some serious awareness is in order, and I think that there’s a great deal more truth in the statement that Jeremy makes than just a passing observation on the dogma of organised religion.  Anyway, I could go on, but I’m not sure there’s a good place to stop - I don’t think cramming it down anyone’s throat is useful - everyone must make these choices on their own if it’s to useful at all.

    Keir: I agree with you on the horrible crap that goes on and is available online but is it worse than ‘real life’? I’m not sure it isn’t just easier to find and do what turns your crank, whatever that might be.  And...did you know that Amelopsis berries are very fertile and self seed quite readily?  (your phrasing stuck with me...hopefully there are greater numbers who’ll use the ‘internets’ to inform than who’ll use it for ...well, whatever other crap they might think is good and I might not)

    Youngfox posted about that mouse neuron a while back - microcosm/macrocosm, eh?  As above, so below.

    And - did you hear by any chance of the invention I’ll call the “Glenn Gould Machine”?
    Last week there was a ‘Glenn Gould concert on some electro-klavier invention which digitised his live recordings, cleaned it up, analysed every detail of every note he played, then it’s attached to a special piano which then ‘plays’ the digitally loaded piece as though it’s Glenn Gould himself.  Considering the man had stopped doing live performances for some time before he died, I really don’t think I like the idea much. Not to mention I cannot quite imagine sitting and watching ‘no one’ play the piano (no matter how beatifully) in a concert hall and give ‘no one’ a standing ovation the way that this all went down.  Nifty invention I suppose, but it seems a perversion of the musician in a sense that I can’t quite define.

    OH!! Happy Belated 30th, Michael !

    Posted by Amelopsis  on  from Canada 10/01  at  10:56 PM
  33. That’s why I said it’s not about religion or faith, Ame; nor, ideology (dogma).  Perhaps you “passed” over this.  mood + good intentions = behavior

    Happy B-day, Michael, it’s the least I could do for a contry boy!

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/01  at  11:26 PM
  34. dw: I didn’t pass over your comment, I was simultyping.

    Part of why I stopped where I did is that due to the very complex control mechanisms I believe to be in place, I don’t think it’s as simple as you say: “mood + good intentions = behavior “; although I would agree that it’s a small step in the right direction. (Also, it’s an entirely massive topic unto itself in so many different ways; far too much so to get very lengthy about it here in Mickey’s comments)

    I might be confused...it was Tub-thumper’s birthday, right? Or maybe I’ve missed a comment?
    Are you still in exile, or back in Tub thumper land?

    And...hi CatLady - missed you lately while you’re at Steve’s and I’m not often here later on.

    Hi Helga - it’s too difficult to name names these days ;) I hope Daylesford’s not too dessicated so early.

    Posted by Amelopsis  on  from Canada 10/01  at  11:40 PM
  35. AMELOPSIS,
    You didn’t like my equation, which was just for you?  Simultyping huh? – what ever.  OH!!  There’s nothing to actually agree with me about because I didn’t suggest “a small step.” Nonetheless, it’s good chatting again even though you WERE the first Expendable to sneer me, back when, smile.  I happen to notice you couldn’t resist applying that original critique to your own web blog soon thereafter.

    CHEERS

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 10/02  at  12:05 AM

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