Mickey Z
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Friday, January 19, 2007
Was Jesus an evil-doer?
This: http://tinyurl.com/2un9zu doesn’t have anything to do with today’s topic but I thought it was pretty telling of where we are as a society.
I don’t think Jesus approves of GWB or his policies. I really don’t believe George gives a shit about Jesus. It’s all lip service.
Peace!
Posted by David on from Louisville KY 01/19 at 06:34 AMMorning all!
Mickey, I laughed so hard at the “WWJD” answer. At least a year indeed!
The AETA gets my blood boiling. That and the very word “terrorist.” The U.N. (for what it is worth) defines terrorism as an intent to harm or kill humans for political reasons (obviously not an exact quote), which makes the AETA especially interesting. Well, we know that this government is more interested in protecting corporations than citizens, but it doesn’t stop me from being pissed about it.
Old news, but maybe new to other people - the fur store in portland that tried to call the fur protesters terrorists? I’m glad no one took them seriously, but that has been my fear all along. Here’s Will Potter’s blog on it: http://tinyurl.com/28cvxr
TGIF, everyone! I’m going to an animal sanctuary tomorrow. So theraputic to shovel real shit instead of just reading about the figurative kind. lol.
Posted by Deb on from NoVa 01/19 at 08:40 AMIf there was a Jesus, and he really could come back...he’d make a whip out of chords and start the beating in the oval office.
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 01/19 at 10:17 AMThank You Mickey...12 years of catholic school...!holy horsefeathers bat breath!! Well, I have always been suspect of anyone who is in the limelight too frequently, be it Jesus George, Bush Christ, the generals and the pope, microsoft and sister Edina, the church, the state, the military, the triad of lies, confusion, terrorism, war. My only memories of anything catholic were the beads, I liked the beads. I never went to catholic school, my parents did not shove christ, the military, the state down my throat...the only worthwhile aspect of their parenting to speak of. As a young child, I went to confession once for shop lifting...I said 4500 hail Mary’s as the pope, priest, whoever suggested...went home and kept the article I stole. Guilt as a substitute for wisdom is no better than acquiring material objects as a substitute for humanity and real information. So here we are living in fear waiting for the release of ‘Vista’, fore MicroSoft shall be our new savior from the pits of eternal nothingness with its advanced graphics and Swiss cheese to be plugged by Norton, McAffee, Panda. Spend, lie, fight, 3D, real time...put your money in the basket, don’t ask for the truth, obey, without question, shop, consume, rationalize...click save to repeat this process over and over, backup, look...at oneself, uninstall, reinstall a new program.
Posted by Joe of Maine on from 01/19 at 10:31 AMinteresting article on a woman found living in the jungle:
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 01/19 at 10:58 AMhello all expendables. what do you make of the latest accusations levelled at Chavez?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6277379.stm
i totally oppose authoritarianism in all its forms, and idiotic socialists / marxists are always susceptible to this but i’m wondering if it’s the BBC reporting a lot of shit again.
Posted by Paul M on from Scotland 01/19 at 11:11 AMHello Expendables. We had snow this morning but the sun has come up and melted anything that stuck.
Thanks for the great comments and links above. It’s too bad they won’t just let that poor woman live in the jungle as she wants. then again, it’s too bad that the dominant culture doesn’t let anyone live where or how they want.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 11:13 AMSorry, Paul, we were simultyping. Who knows? I certainly don’t trust the corporate media as an objective source, re: official U.S. enemies. But, of course, Chavez is human and thus capable of such behavior. What does everyone else think?
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 11:16 AMPaul M: it initially looks bad, but I’d want to hear perspectives from the people in Venezuela. One thing I’ve noticed is that Chavez keeps giving to the people - the poor people. That is one big reason the fathead leaders will view him with suspicion and try to make him sound like a tyrant. We “democratically” elect our tyrants who continually take from the poor to give to the rich. Is an authoritarian leader who takes from the rich to give to the poor really a worse choice?
I don’t have much of an opinion on the latest from the BBC until I hear what the people in Venezuela have to say. I just don’t know enough of the situation to be able to see on my own what the BBC isn’t saying.
Posted by Deb on from NoVa 01/19 at 11:42 AMWell put, Deb.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 11:46 AMGood Day, Expendables.
If there is any truth to this Chavez story, I think he’s making a big mistake. In the past, he has used presidential power to blunt antidemocratic efforts to undermine the Bolivarian program (firing oil industry provocateurs, for instance), but has wisely and strongly kept within the Constitutional framework (unlike some presidents we could mention).
Whatever the reason for this decree power (if the story is accurate), it likely won’t outweigh the rationalizations it will give the US to ramp up attacks. And this may just be another case of an independent government being under such constant pressure that this is a response rather than an initiative.
I’d like to learn more about this. Thanks for the link, Paul.
WWJD?: he’d carpet bomb the non-believers, just to set them straight, lest he had to visit some serious whuppin’ on them, Old Testament style. Spare the rod, spoil the favorable market conditions. So to speak.
Posted by Zenprole on from Urth 01/19 at 11:49 AMEqually well-put, Zenprole. Maybe I should collect these comments and turn them into an article, re: Chavez.
Anyone else?
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 11:51 AMGreat article today again. Just shows how truly screwed up this society is!
As for Chavez. I don’t see what the big deal is. The west always preaches about what a great system we have because there are checks and balances on power and those who wield it. So then how to explain the absolute mess we’ve made of this planet? Where are the checks and balances to the greed of the ruling oligarchy?
I’d rather have a guy like Chavez or Castro in charge than a democratic government like Harper’s (up here in Canuckistan) or Bush’s.
Chau for now
Edson
Posted by Edson Castilho on from Halifax 01/19 at 12:01 PMHi all...I agree with Edson. Chavez is a lot better than most. As far as ruling by decree goes, I think a Benevolent Monarchy would be better than the corrupt, oppressive, bought-and-paid-for Predatory Capitalism that exists in the usa. A Benevolent Monarchy would be an improvement over a Corpocracy. Chavez gave usa citizens some oil to heat their homes. The usa government says, “Let ‘em freeze to death”.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 01/19 at 12:36 PMLong live the Bolivarian Revolution! I am sure his congress is littered with scum elected on CIA money (a huge difference from if the CIA felt like supporting my artistic endeavors) and US propoganda who would simply block him from completing the steps the people elected him to accomplish. Taking back businesses and resources from foreign corporate multi-nationals sounds like a great thing.
captcha says #### tha ‘police’
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 01/19 at 12:46 PMJesus would probably only be able to speak through his lawyer as he´d be wearing one of those natty orange jumpsuits in Guantanamo Bay.
Posted by owen on from schmarcelona 01/19 at 02:50 PMJOS #15...You have inspired me. We should join the Bolivarian Revolution, convert our dollars to Bolivars, refuse to buy pizza or anything else from any business that does not accept our new currency… and it would all be non-violent and legal. We owe at least that much support to Chavez for all he has done for those in the usa.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 01/19 at 03:28 PMRMJ, I heard that a pizza parlor near the Mexican border started taking pesos and got in trouble…
But who cares! I’m with you!
captcha:blood
Posted by JOS on from Chicago 01/19 at 03:36 PMJOS...yes that pizza/pesos story was in the news. Someone debating the issue last night on air called the opposition to the peso as currency in the usa as xenophopic. Besides the controversy, it looked like really good pizza.
Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 01/19 at 03:43 PMAnother great entry, Mickey! Your blog always makes my day.
Just back from another flying visit to Melbourne - and it is raining outside. The long-awaited rain has arrived. Later today, my mother-in-law and Mr Helga’s oldest sister are going to come.
‘Hi’ to David, Deb, JOS, Joe, Paul M, zenprole, Edson Castilho, Rosemarie and Owen. The illustrious company puts this expendable to shame, but she is glad to be here.
Have a good weekend, all you.
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/19 at 03:54 PMHello again, everyone. If I opt to collect the Chavez comments into an article, is there anyone who’d rather I didn’t include theirs?
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 06:06 PMRMJ said: “I think a Benevolent Monarchy would be better than the corrupt, oppressive, bought-and-paid-for Predatory Capitalism that exists in the usa.”
Unfortunately, I think that a benevolent monarchy might be the only form of government that could fend off corruption. Groups are easily manipulated… a strong-willed leader with the best interests of his or her people truly in mind might be the only be the only realistic option for a more ideal world.
I should be posting more often. I’ve been keeping an eye on things here, but I had been unable to spend any real time with posting. My life has settled down a bit, so I look forward to getting to know the rest of you a bit better, as I enjoyed this community in the limited time I was here before.
Hope everyone is well.
Posted by Banta on from relocated to sunny Florida 01/19 at 06:58 PMDeb said: “We “democratically” elect our tyrants who continually take from the poor to give to the rich. Is an authoritarian leader who takes from the rich to give to the poor really a worse choice?”
RMJ said: “I think a Benevolent Monarchy would be better than the corrupt, oppressive, bought-and-paid-for Predatory Capitalism that exists in the usa. A Benevolent Monarchy would be an improvement over a Corpocracy. Chavez gave usa citizens some oil to heat their homes. The usa government says, “Let ‘em freeze to death”.”
I say...like the media’s got any room to talk about oppressive dictatorial anything anywhere, when they rolled over and let Shrub bu-fu ‘em (and us, no kiss no grease) with the hideously, horribly misnamed “USA PATRIOT Act” which is an acronym for something even more ludicrously awful.
I don’t mean to go all Jesusy on y’all, but there’s a Biblical quote about motes and beams that needs resurrecting here.
Posted by Mudge on from Austin, Texas 01/19 at 07:15 PMHello Mudge. Welcome back, Banta.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/19 at 10:07 PMHey everyone,
Sorry I’m coming in late on this discussion, but I just read about it on OpEd news. I have a blog about Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution: http://www.BoRev.Net, and your instincts here are right on the money. Here’s some more info on these “rule by decree” reports that add a little more context to the discussion:
> The Venezuelan Assembly has actually only opened up hearings on the proposed law.
> If approved, the president would be limited in what it could “decree.” Basically overseeing the functions of executive branch agencies. Pretty much the rights that U.S. presidents have always had.
> These powers are already granted by the Venezuelan constitution (the current constitution as well as the older constitution)
> This isn’t the first time they’ve been exercised. In fact, the last president of Venezuela activated these powers too.
Thought you might find this useful info.
Best,
EW
Posted by ew01 on from USA 01/22 at 06:56 PMThanks, EW. I plan to post the OpEd News article on my blog on Wednesday so please feel free to join the discussions then,
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/22 at 07:03 PM
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