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Friday, June 17, 2005

Going off the wall with Jacko and Gizoogle with Snoop

Posted by Mickey Z on 06/17 at 05:06 AM

  1. “Innocent till proven broke...”
    Well, there you have it.  Perfectly stated, Mr. Z!
    It seems true enough: 
    The rich do not have laws - they have price tags.

    I’d be pissed about this, but I can’t afford it…

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 06/17  at  03:24 PM

  2. I am sorry, but after decades of having locked them in ghettos, denying them education, tossing in crack and guns to see if the ignorant suffering bastards might kill themselves off, this white, middle class gleeful hand clapping at this asshole’s ("Snoop Doggy Dog") pig latin like, child’s word play, is akin to the white folk saying “see the little darky sing and dance, they really are very entertaining, don’t you think? Here, toss him some watermelon”.

    But then… I’m not opinionizzled

    Posted by Peter (the other)  on  from California 06/17  at  06:43 PM

  3. Hey, Mickey -

    As I mentioned a couple days ago:  It has been a weird week, here on the Left, eh?  -joe

    Posted by joe  on  from Oregon 06/17  at  07:35 PM

  4. I didn’t get that impression at all, Peter! There was some bleak irony in the first part of the post. The second part appears to be deliberately an oblique reference to that quality. I caught no condescension. From what I do know of Mickey, middle class hand clapping of the biogted kind is about the last thing he’d do. Would you email me? Or talk further here? I think I can convince you you’re mistaken.

    Posted by Harry  on  from 06/17  at  09:32 PM

  5. I’m not completely sure Peter was being serious (his closing line gave me the impression he was just sarcastic) but if he was serious, well, he’s barking up the wrong tree here. Someone turned me on the the Gizoogle site, I punched in my URL, and it genuinely made me laugh. What makes me laugh even more is the tired canard about “white middle class” commentators being closet racists. Blah, blah, blah…

    If it was site that translated my blog into Mafia-style lingo, am I a self-hating Italian?

    It’s too bad we don’t see such outrage aimed at the real criminals. But then again, maybe Peter was just pulling my leg…

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/17  at  09:47 PM

  6. Further proof, perhaps, that Peter was just funning us: On his blog (http://loosepoodle.blogspot.com), he offers a link to my blog.

    Peter? Please explain…

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/17  at  09:50 PM

  7. One last note: I just did some digging and found that Peter was the one I mentioned a while back who called me a “web hero.”

    Peter?

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/17  at  09:54 PM

  8. I’m sorry, too loosely sprayed that… that… diatribe. I didn’t mean Mickey’s mention, as indeed, the translation of one’s writing into that silly lingo is fun to do (although this particular lingo doesn’t even have the dignity of a political, social subtrefuge, raison d’etre. Mickey, “hero” was meant seriously. I read you everyday with great respect for your ability to articulate the logical problems in today’s political cloaca.

    I do have a problem with this SDD character. If I didn’t hold strongly to freedom of speech, I would suggest he should come up before the “crimes against humanity” court for his first album alone, which I actually bought and tried to listen to. I am serious in that accusation, I am talking about his lyrics (the music is not my thing either, but I respect that right). The fact that he has become a Disney action figure who is selling children more junk doesn’t make him less despicable to me.

    Years ago, I was working with Cheech & Chong who were considered at that time an “adult” act (sex & drugs being liberally talked about). But I was often surprised to find little children pulling on their sleeves “Cheeee, Chooooong” (Cheech and I went on to make a children’s record together, years later). I realized at that time, that the names “Cheech & Chong” combined with their images captured a simplistic, easy to grasp concept. In that Snoop Doggy Dog, who has (in my opinion) a very dog like appearance, and his name, makes him an easily identifiable commodity. The willingness to market and exploit this, by the corporations, is in the end (if profitable for Calvin Broadus) a belittling, a “playing pretty for the people”. I guess I am one of those who thinks more along the lines of Bill Cosby when it comes to today’s black culture.

    I do get bent out of shape by the easy acceptence of all sorts of garbage, on my fellow “white middle class“‘s part, in the name of tolerance. Though I prefer the mistake of “tolerance” to the other, sometimes I think this lazy grasping is the root of much that is frustrating in today’s… pre-revolutionary times (wink

    Sorry for making too much of a thing.

    Posted by Peter (the other)  on  from California 06/17  at  11:39 PM

  9. Absolutely no need to apologize, Peter. You got us all thinking and there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Thanks for taking time to explain and for your kind words. I hope you’ll leave more comments here in the future.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/18  at  08:53 AM

  10. I’m sorry, I believe very much that Mickey Z is not racist; but this article is problematic for me.

    Posted by kim  on  from 06/19  at  08:29 AM

  11. Please explain, Kim.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/19  at  10:16 AM

  12. Respectfully, it is axiomatic that justice is a function of one’s wealth. But I believe that the notion of innocent-until-proven-guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt) is fundamentally fair.
    Further, while I’m not a fan, I see no reason to disparage (at least that is the way it seems) Michael Jackson by referring to him as “Jacko.”
    Racism is surmountable, but it requires a change in not only “our” consciences but “our” behaviors.

    Posted by kim  on  from 06/19  at  10:33 AM

  13. I agree. There was a large amount of sarcasm injected here, Kim, but I’m glad Jackson was found not guilty if the prosecution was unable to prove otherwise. Wealth alone did not guarantee his freedom, but those lawyers are simply not available to any except an elite few.

    As for calling him “Jacko,” well, I hardly made that up. It’s been his nickname for over a decade.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 06/19  at  10:38 AM

  14. From all that I have read from you, it seems that there can be little doubt about your commitment and concern for justice; and we both agree that there is injustice in the application of so-called justice.

    While“Jacko”wasn’t made up by you, the usage is derogatory. I submit that a name acceptable to Michael Jackson would be in better taste.

    Posted by kim  on  from 06/19  at  11:01 AM

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