Mickey Z
Cool Observer
Monday, January 23, 2006
Holy War, Batman...it's Osama vs. Dubya
as i know most of the people here think, the bush/osama thing is a falsehood intended to foster an us V them mentality in the general populace. as i said before, if these two (bush and osama) both claim to be motivated by god then isn’t this a strong argument for atheism?
mickey - whats the site for the anagrams or did you DIY?
Posted by michael on from scotland 01/23 at 08:06 AMoh, and my captcha was ‘single’
no need to rub it in.
Posted by michael on from scotland 01/23 at 08:07 AMand finally, about yesterday… MOMOS ARE FANTASTIC
Posted by michael on from scotland 01/23 at 08:25 AMGreat post again MZ, hard not to laugh out loud at the anagrams!
As for who will win - I don’t think there will be any ‘winner’; at least not in the forseeable future. Too great are the numbers of dead and too great are the numbers of apathetic Westerners. So many can’t even be bothered to vote in our own elections, they certainly don’t care to see themselves as effectual on a global scale.
I’d like to have more “faith” in humanity, ask me tomorrow after our elections and maybe I’ll be feeling better. Right now I’m wallowing somewhat in the thought of the likely proposition of a minority Conservative Govt. If that happens, all the nuts will come out of the wood work and we’ll all but have raised the stars and stripes here.
Anyhoo...Fight Club tomorrow! I’m so busy I’ve not been online here or anywhere as much as I’d like, but I’m definitely in.
JOS - great news - glad you’re feeling good and up for the Fight Club read!
MOMOS!!! I didn’t know it, but according to the picture I think I may have eaten these before. (same or similar to chinese style?) No Dalai action? Tibet has lots of Yaks too, don’t they? I trust there wasn’t any of that action either!
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 01/23 at 09:19 AMHas anyone seen “Why we Fight”? I forget if anyone’s mentioned it here. A friend recommended it recently, but i feel like I’ve heard all too little about it.
Mention of Batman on the main post reminded me of the ‘88 classic ‘the Killing Joke’. Nothing’s ever defined the relationship btn two characters as this, though I don’t know what analogy there’d be between the two mentioned above ‘real life’ figures. Still, the classic line response of Batman’s to the Joker “I’ve heard it all before, and it wasn’t funny the first time” really comes to mind when thinking of Iran war plans.
Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 01/23 at 10:03 AMThanks Amelopsis...hello Michael.
My brother and I used to go to this great Tibetan restaurant on the Upper West Side and had dumplings filled with potatoes...heavy, but extremely good.
I love the comments we get from the Bush Admin. every time a new Osama message comes out, they sound like little kids in the schoolyard.
Osama and Dubya use religion, as many have before them, as a tool to persuade others to join them and to commit atrocities.
One (OBL) happens to be smarter than the other. The other (GWB) happens to spend a half a Trillion dollars a year on his military’s might.
As the world has found out in the past several years, the guy with the one track mind and all the power is capable of killing a lot more people.
Posted by JOS on from Oak Park, IL (Birthplace of E. Hemingway) 01/23 at 10:26 AMHello, James.
Posted by JOS on from Oak Park, IL (Birthplace of E. Hemingway) 01/23 at 10:26 AMI love that bit where Osama rebuts the “they hate freedom” line by asking, then, why didn’t Al Qaeda attack Sweden.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say, in addition to Blum, Osama also reads Chomsky.
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 01/23 at 10:35 AMMornin’ Michael and All,
This caught my eye:-
“if these two (bush and osama) both claim to be motivated by god then isn’t this a strong argument for atheism?”Atheism argues that God doesn’t exist, not whether he is good or bad.
Perhaps a better arguement would be “These guys worship a God of Death. How could a God of Life (if he exists) suffer these people causing so much death in his name?”
This at least puts the proponents of a creative and loving God (such as me) on the back foot!As for who wins. That’s a trick question, Mickey (you tricky bugger!)
Mudge, settled in yet?
Hi JOS.
Bye All, going back to bed!
Posted by Jim on from 01/23 at 10:52 AMHi Amelopsis,
I haven’t been following the build up to your elections but the pattern of the US, British and Oz elections was the pundits and papers saying it’s touch and go beforehand (which was a surprise to most people in the street) and then on the day the “free-for-all-war-enterprise party” just scrapes over the line. i.e. the fix was in.
If that is sounding familiar in Canada, then I would expect the same fix.
On that cheery note I am definitely going to bed “perchance to dream”.Posted by Jim on from 01/23 at 11:00 AMGood Monday, Expendables. Excuse me for a few seconds...Big Country JOS is in the muthafuckin’ house...thanks, I had to get that out of my system.
Michael: In terms of the anagrams, I think I just Googled. As for Momos, they also come in a round, puffy style. Equally delicious.
Empress: Yaks? Is there a bestiality joke in there somewhere? Empress?
James: I guess the “heard it all before” aspect is what makes propaganda so powerful. For example, we hear “sneak attack” and we think “Pearl Harbor” and then: we’re on automatic pilot and anything goes.
Jim: Ask a tricky question...get a tricky answer.
And everyone, how about an Expendable welcome to Jeremy...joining us from the Far East. Nice to have you here, Jeremy.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/23 at 11:01 AMThanks for the welcome. I’m presently living in Taiwan, but I’m from the States (just to let you know).
Posted by Jeremy on from Taiwan 01/23 at 11:15 AMMy my, Mickey it’s a little early for having your mind in the gutter ;)
Empress: Yaks? Is there a bestiality joke in there somewhere? Empress?Eeeeuuwww!!!
No, I was thinking yakking, as in ‘to vomit’. LOL
Which I will be doing tomorrow (or late tonight) if my riding goes Conservative.
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 01/23 at 11:36 AMHey, welcome Jeremy and further congratulations to JOS-- yeah, about propaganda, I guess that unfortunately people still find it funny after all this time, or take it seriously, depending how you look at it.
Gotta get this off my mind, the joke I was referring to before. All kinds of stuff you can read into it, or not.
“See, there were these two guys in a lunatic asylum… And one night, one night they decide they don’t like living in an asylum any more. They decide they’re going to escape! So like, they get up onto the roof, and there, just across this narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away in the moonlight… Stretching away to freedom. Now, the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daredn’t make the leap. Y’see… Y’see he’s afraid of falling. So then, the first guy has an idea… He says ‘Hey! I have my flashlight with me! I’ll shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk along the beam and join me!’ B-but the second guy just shakes his head. he suh-says...’Wh-what do you think I am, crazy? You’d turn it off when I was half way across!’”
So I don’t know, maybe it’s the media and the other powers that be that are constantly turning light off when we’re halfway across the beam.
Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 01/23 at 11:40 AMTwo quick clarifications, Empress: In the States, “yakking” does not mean “vomiting,” so I didn’t get your joke. ("Yakking" can mean “talking” here.)
Secondly, it’s never too early to have my mind in the gutter.
On that sordid note, I’m outta here for a while.
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/23 at 11:58 AMHey Jim...welcome Jeremy.
On the topic of God, gods, religion and spiritualty:
As someone who believes in a higher power greater than myself that bears NO similarities to any religion or to the gods of Bush or Osama, I think that atheism is an extreme view...no offense to Mick or Jim or anyone else here, who I think of as far more spiritual than most (spiritual in a sense of a person who acts and thinks with kindness).
I have recently become a big fan of accepting the fact that there is a lot out there that I do not know and could never possibly understand or define.
Posted by JOS on from Oak Park, IL (Birthplace of E. Hemingway) 01/23 at 11:58 AMJOS I’m with you on the atheism perspective....I have always found it difficult to describe how exactly I feel about that belief, but I think ‘extreme’ fits.
I don’t adhere to any belief that conforms to common ‘religious’ templates; equally I don’t adhere to the notion of a total void.
Perhaps there’s something more to atheism that I’m missing?
Welcome, Jeremy!
Posted by Amelopsis on from Canada 01/23 at 12:55 PMNot all atheists are extreme about it. Michele and I recently had dinner with another couple: also atheists. The topic came up and this is the gist of what I said: “I’m not pretending to have the answer. I think about God about as often as I think about UFOs. Who knows? Who cares? The concept is just not part of my life and I rarely, if ever, discuss it.”
Make sense?
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/23 at 01:00 PMThat sounds more reasonable than some athiests I’ve met who seem to have some absolute certainty that there is no god/s and that death is just an eternal dreamless sleep. How could they know that for certain? That seems as inanely devout as most Christians I’ve known.
Posted by James on from Hell's Kitchen 01/23 at 01:05 PMHello all,
Getting as settled as I can in light of the fact that the place isn’t mine. But here I am! All moved out and spread around, stuff-wise.
My niece’s husband is home ill today, so I haven’t got a lot of computer time...y’all have a great day!
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/23 at 01:08 PMHi, Mickey - and I join Empress Amelopsis (The Canadians won’t vote the conservatives in, will they? They are more intelligent than the Australians - or are they?): great post! Did Dubya really make all those statements? When did he quip about books and pictures, Mickey?
And ‘hi’ to MUDGE, Michael, James, Jeremy and Jim. I hope each and every one of you has a good day - it will be bearable in Daylesford: about 76F, but bushfires are still raging in parts of southeastern Australia, and temperatures of 104F and more are expected on Thursday.
And that anagram is great, Herr Z.! Thanks for all you do, write, etc.
Auf Wiederemailen,
Helga from down under at 6:14 am on a Tuesday morningPosted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/23 at 02:14 PMOh, and single Michael, ‘if these two (bush and osama) both claim to be motivated by god then isn’t this a strong argument for atheism?’ It is!!
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/23 at 02:15 PMDon’t know quite where I stand on religion. I think any good argument makes sense, provided people are rational. I’ve met very few people whose blind faith was scary to me (in the Manson peepers way), but I feel a lot of people just go part way down a particular path and then say to themselves, heck, this suits me, I’ll settle my mind down here.
Michael, James, Jim, JOS & MZ all have good, sound views - I think the UFO analogy is a fine balance point: is it relevant if god exists? Will he/she/it mind if I don’t personally worship with the correct dogma? I’m sure that if god exists, god would have to be fairly broad minded.
I believe a lot of folk are quite arrogant about assuming they have god’s time on their own personal prayer speed dial. The humility / arrogance flipsides are too pronounced in some people’s faiths. But then, it’s arrogant of me to claim that, I suppose.
It’s the religious people who see their faith as a means to reach out, help & welcome others that I find most easy to accept as being on the right spiritual path, assuming one is necessary (& each to their own, for sure). There’s a bit in 50 AM which details Thomas Paine’s religious view, that he didn’t need a church because, ah hell my memory’s turned off for the day. It was cool & accurate anyway!
My personal view is that a higher power certainly exists, otherwise how else to explain all the wonders out there?
Osama & Dubya do point me to one clear conclusion, though: fundamentalists are scary, scary people, who need to be a loooong way away from war machinery & other fanatical types. These are the guys who, with a slight conversion, would make the most diabolically persistent salesmen.
Now, what if ... we did have an afterlife, but without consciousness. Does that strike people as blissful or hellish? I rather like the idea of blissfully floating in contentment. Then, I also like the idea that after death, the brain (soul?) starts orbiting around space with the most incredible reach. (John Donne wrote about that in one of his anniversary poems - the soul journeys toward the sun, that type of thing).
Then again, I could just be a brain in a pickle jar, so what the hell do I know?
(Before you snigger - you could all be brains in pickle jars as well!)
Mind, I might also be an onion in a pickle jar. That would be a real gyp for my writing ambitions!
“Chris Wood, a small onion in Manchester, has his new book out ...”
I model bananas - I love that one!
Posted by Chris Wood on from Manchester, England 01/23 at 03:21 PMBig Country!! Great to see ya!!
Re: Bush and Osama, the anagrams are hilarious! I found this quote apt in dealing with both “men”:
I think there is only one quality worse than hardness of heart, and that is softness of head.
-Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President
(1858-1919)God, should She actually exist and should She actually run the Universe the way these goofballs’ relgious books say She does, would reject both these candidates for Paradise. That fact gives me a chuckle.
Buddhist and Hindu concepts of a god-force, an impersonal power that has no personality, seem to me so much more logical, and so much more accepting of the key factor: Intent.
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/23 at 03:29 PMGreetings, all.
As far as Osama bin Dubya is concerned, I don’t think there will be a winner in the sense of planting your flag on the ruins of the enemies’ capital as your army sweeps all before it. The attacks on 9/11 pushed this country down the road it was already heading. The bleeding away of Democracy to leave the corpse of Fascism. A Pyrrhic victory, for the entire planet will suffer the death throes of our empire. Ouch.
On a related note, I pass a large electronic sign as I head to work each day. It says: Report Suspicious Activity Call 1-800-GOT FEAR (Ok, I made the number up, but it would be so appropriate!) I am tempted to call the number and say, “I’d like to report some suspicious activity on Pennsylvania Avenue inside this big white house...”
Posted by Cart on from near Warshington DC 01/23 at 03:38 PMTry this on for size:
The Telegraph ran this piece by Dr Niall Ferguson called “Happy Hogmanay, now let’s put Scotland into liquidation.”
Michael, “your” thoughts?
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/23 at 04:04 PMI agree with Michael in post no.1, this Bush-Bin Laden circus is a not very subtle attempt to play the pro- and contra-war crowds off against each other.
Kim Deal of the Pixies: “I believe in God, but I don´t think God believes in me.”
Posted by Owen on from Barcelona 01/23 at 04:17 PMI don’t believe in god or osama or george bush, but they’ve all been giving me hell.
Posted by Keir on from The Hague 01/23 at 05:18 PMHi JOS,
I think you may have misread me. I am not an atheist at all. Perhaps in the spirit of Tricky Mickey’s question, I was too tricky myself in how I worded it.
I like this very much:-
“I have recently become a big fan of accepting the fact that there is a lot out there that I do not know and could never possibly understand or define.”It seems to me that genuine spirituality can only begin from a point of humility which neither of our contestants (nor any fundos, for that matter) have. (Any thoughts, Hawk?)
For people who have been seriously and deliberately damaged by others, the quest to find whether there is a (caring) God or not is one of survival.
Posted by Jim on from 01/23 at 06:03 PM‘I don’t believe in God or Osama or George Bush but they’ve all been giving me hell.’ Bears repeating, Keir!
And if any of you want to listen to Harold Pinter’s Nobel speech again, go here: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/ and click on ‘Listen Live’.
Amelopsis, here’s what I read on the Canadian elections at xymphora.blogspot.com:
‘Canadian election poll conspiracy
Canada holds its thirty-ninth national election today. The conspiracy angle is the way the disgusting Canadian media conspired to misuse polling data to give the radical right-wing Conservative Party - which really should be called the Republican Party North - an electoral advantage. The problem the Conservatives have is that many feel - quite accurately, I might add - that they are too extremist and out of line with Canadian values to constitute an acceptable political choice. Manipulated reports of polling data have been systematically used to get around this problem. From late December to early January the polls miraculously turned around, to put the Conservatives, who had been trailing, substantially in the lead. Suddenly, a vote for the Conservatives, which seemed to be a crazy choice, was validated by the fact that so many other Canadians apparently thought it was an acceptable choice (it’s so bizarre that the Conservative leader actually argues that a vote for him is safe as he’ll only end up with a minority government, meaning he won’t be able to do all the things he otherwise would be able to do!). Careful analysis of the polling results shows how the results were distorted in order to create a self-fulfilling prophesy. All of the major polling companies but - perhaps - one, are run by doctrinaire Conservatives, a fact the disgusting Canadian media never bothered to mention, and they all used the same misleading tricks. The media immediately fell all over itself declaring that a Conservative victory was inevitable. The worst thing is that they tried to fool Canadians using the same methods in the last election. It didn’t work then but it may work now.’
What do you think?Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/23 at 06:08 PMGood evening, everyone. Great comments, quotes, links, etc.
Glad to hear you’re settled in, Mudge.
Chris: Your post (#23) is dead on (in my view). I particularly relate to this: “I believe a lot of folk are quite arrogant about assuming they have god’s time on their own personal prayer speed dial.”
Cart: Here’s something I wrote a while back on the topic of manufactured fear: http://tinyurl.com/bf458
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/23 at 06:11 PMGood piece on manufactured fear, Mickey! Has not dated at all ..
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/23 at 06:17 PMGood Night, Expendables. I’ll leave you with this question: What would Tyler Durden do?
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/23 at 10:13 PMExpendable Helga is back! And unfortunately ‘The Fight Club’ is not available in Daylesford, but on my next visit to Melbourne, I’ll buy it. That’s a promise, Mickey.
And it seems the s..t has hit the fan in Canada, although at least Mr Harper does not have a majority in his own right. Amelopsis, what’s your reaction?
Good night from Daylesford to the US, Canada and ‘old Europe’.Accidentally posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia at 01:12 AM on the previous comment thread, so I have copied it to the most recent one.
Ciao!
Posted by Helga Fremlin on from Daylesford, Australia 01/24 at 01:15 AMWell, it looks like MZ’s having trouble getting access to his blog this AM, and when that issue’s corrected we’ll Fight Club-ize:
SITE PROBLEMS
I’ve been trying all morning...but cannot access my own blog. The same
goes
for Press Action (the host site) and the webpage at which I publish my
posts.So, I quickly picked out a handful of Expendable e-mails and sent out
this
note as a head’s up. If anyone can access the site, please let me know.
Also, perhaps you can add a comment to yesterday’s post explaining the
situation.I have to head out now. When I return later, I’ll try again.
Sorry to delay the “Fight Club” discussion.
Thanks,
MZ
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/24 at 08:41 AMWell, I’m anxious to discuss Fight Club but these problems will have to wait.
Helga re: our horrid elections: Xymphora had it EXACTLY RIGHT. It’s how I’ve felt for the past 2 months and this morning is the same pandering by the media. There are many details such as Harper’s pandering to the West (east of the rockies only) in his victory speech, when it’s the bloody Quebequois who won him his minority govt.
I’m full of piss and vinegar right now, wondering how long until he’s glad handing with Bushco, and how long until our surplus becomes a deficit...all spent on tax cuts for the corporations and stroking cheques to every breeder (as if 1200 will pay a month’s childcare!?) He’ll repeal my tax cut and cut my tax benefits such as healthcare…
Essentially the only hope is that the NDP gained seats and that the Bloc’s leader Duceppe says he’ll vote against any motion with which he disagrees, even if it triggers yet another election before long.
All of you in the US will likely be hearing more about your wonderful northern neighbours again soon.
Posted by Amelopsis on from neoCanada 01/24 at 09:00 AMEmpress, the election was a disaster for Canada’s sane and sensible system. He’ll Bushify the place in no time, given the smallest complicity from the Bloc...what buy-offs will Duceppe accept to give Harper his horrific Albertan vision of wealth-makes-right/Right?
I sob for your painful transition to Murrican style rightwingery. Time for the NUtI, methinks.
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/24 at 09:39 AMOh Mudge..."Time for the NUtI, methinks.”
And how. It really is disturbing. Not least is the way the media is covering this: the same as the way they covered the campaign.
Horrid.
Posted by Amelopsis on from neoCanada 01/24 at 09:52 AMNeocons rule North America
A large credit goes to our dismal corporate media for crowning the Neocons weeks ago and creating the mood of acceptability for the unacceptable by promoting disproportionate poll results as inevitable fact.
The slack-jawed eater/breeders who form their political affiliations based on what the TV tells them sensed inevitability and with the usual dummy’s desire to swing “with a winner” anointed these socially regressive turds to power
I regret I will not be joining the Fight Club discussion. Anybody with any modicum of progressive thought in Canada is in for a long hard ideological war. We are now in the same boat as all progressives in the US , so hey move over and make some room.(at least these shitwands didn’t get the majority our media was pushing for)
If you desire peace and progress this is a boot to your ideological groin. Hopefully the NDP will stand up for progressives and stem this dark tide of hatred and greed enveloping Canada.
best to all…
MZ
Hope you are not becoming a gag target for the evil machinations of your government that regard free speech as an archaic and foolish notion .
Hopefully your glitch is merely that and nothing more.Posted by Youngfox on from NeoConada 01/24 at 09:57 AMMornin Mickey & Mudge & Amelopsis & Youngfox -
I guess our “Freekflags” should hang at 1/2 mast, today. It’s not really the individual politicians, it’s the corporations. The corporations are slowly - but inexorably - taking over the world.
Welcome to North America, a Wal-Mart - General Electric - Halliburton Production.
Coming soon to every square inch near you…Posted by joe on from Oregon 01/24 at 10:12 AM>>>The corporations are slowly - but inexorably - taking over the world.<<<
Done happened, Joe. Seen Bill Ford on TV announcing FoMoCo is cutting 30,000 jobs in the US and Canada, not in Mexico or other low-wage parts of the world? “Too expensive to keep our promises to retirees” will replay itself in these “low-wage” countries in about 40-50 years.
If corporations were people, we’d call them sociopaths...their own comfort and well-being are all that matter, and #### a buncha everyone else. There is no such thing as a conscience unless it’s installed early on, and that’s not a major concern to the corporate board.
Instead of living to be 141 (my previous ambition, that way I’d be alive in 3 centuries) I think I’ll just go take a dirt-nap now. >sigh<
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/24 at 10:29 AMGood morning Joe! Glad to see you back, same to you of course, Mudge.
I hope that both your situations are improved and stable...floods, moving, the whole ‘shabang’.
Totally unrelated: Mudge you mentioned going to the South by Southwest Music Festival. If you happen to go this year, I’ve seen that Christine Fellows will be playing there. She’s a fine Canadian musician who’s worth seeing if you can make it.
Posted by Amelopsis on from neoCanada 01/24 at 10:42 AMEmpress, I’ll do my best to catch Christine if I get to SXSW this year, though honestly I don’t care if I never see a single live music performance again in my life. I prefer music whose volume is under my personal control at all times, and whose presence or absence I can effortlessly command. Key word: “effortlessly.”
There’s a reason I’m called “curmudgeon.”
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/24 at 10:48 AMHi to you and Mr. Mudge, Amelopsis. Good to see you two, too…
Yup, things have dried out a bit, here, but the clean-up and restorations are huge undertakings. I can’t imagine what it’s like in New Orleans.Fight Club and recent world events have put me a bit on edge, of late. Here’s a take from Hemingway, on our situation:
“What did he fear? It was not fear or dread. It was a nothing that he knew too well. It was all a nothing and a man was nothing too. It was only that and light was all it needed and a certain cleanness and order. Some lived in it and never felt it but he knew it was already nada y pues nada y pues nada. Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name thy kingdom nada thy will be nada in nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us not into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee...”
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Posted by joe on from Oregon 01/24 at 10:57 AMI hear you, I feel much the same about live music now too. Her music is not the loud rockish sort though, if that’s any incentive.
Here’s a link so you can check her out first: http://tinyurl.com/c95op
Posted by Amelopsis on from neoCanada 01/24 at 11:03 AMMudge, I’m with you: In the 1970’s, I went to see Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin in Saratoga Springs. Two of the greatest guitarists in the world, on stage together…
The music was so loud, I was unable to make out any individual notes. It was like listening to an endless explosion of screams and roars…
Remember:
Only a salon can sell professional hair-care products. Visit a salon near you, today!Posted by joe on from Oregon 01/24 at 11:05 AM“Migrations” is very nice, Amelopsis. Though, I think, I AM afraid…
Don’t forget:
Downloading free music from the internet is stealing! You wouldn’t steal a car, would you? You wouldn’t steal a purse!(A message from the music industry - respect our intellectual property rights or we’ll #### you up!)
Posted by joe on from Oregon 01/24 at 11:15 AMHello Gang. I’m back on and the Fight Club post is up. I’ll be back soon to join in.
Captcha sez: “needed.”
Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 01/24 at 11:40 AM>>>Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee...”<<<
Proof positive that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Hemingway writes something I like and agree with, mark the calendar!
Personally, as regards la Hemingway I’m with Gert: “Ernie’s remarks do not constitute literature.” Or Tru: “That’s not writing, that’s typing.”
Music story:
In Peru, one is not allowed to eat sans live music. Never, ever. Breakfast, lunch or dinner, someone’s gonna sing and/or play an instrument at you.I regarded this as proof positive that God hates me, personally, so much She will torment me even on vacation. I must be descended from Cain.
Joe, it was music festivals that turned me off of music for good. Walls of noise at painful volumes made me angry then, and homicidal now.
Posted by Mudge on from Austin 01/24 at 11:42 AMYeah, I’m through with concerts, as well, Mudge. Even if I could control the noise, I’d still be trapped inside a huge crowd of people desperate to be entertained.
A couple days in a locked psych unit, blasted out on Haldol, strikes me as infinitely more pleasant.Posted by joe on from Oregon 01/24 at 12:13 PM
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