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Thursday, September 28, 2006

"It’ll come out in the wash"

Posted by Mickey Z on 09/28 at 04:14 AM
  1. oooh i like it when i get in first!!

    anyway, something that won’t be coming out in the wash for thousands of years is the radiation all the nuclear testing, weapons and power plants have released.

    Posted by michael  on  from exile 09/28  at  06:28 AM
  2. From last night, Mudge #39. I agree. In my view religion and ethnicity should be totally kept out of foreign messes that we create. Many disagree with me, but I still say that it is all about greed and Capitalism which has led to very predictable “blowback”.  Also, about fines...I believe that they should always be based on ability to pay, even traffic fines.

    Good morning michael...yes, the half-life of those substances might determine the whole life of each of us.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/28  at  07:34 AM
  3. Imagine...if the powers that be reallocated resources dedicated to R & D of resource exploitation and the amassement of monetary wealth toward R & D in social and ecological improvement. 

    Also, US army War Resister Darrel Anderson though his attitude is unchanged, will return to the US to face the music after our Canadian gov’t refusal to grant him refugee status. http://tinyurl.com/gn3t8

    Posted by Amelopsis  on  from Canada 09/28  at  07:45 AM
  4. Yikes!
    Don’t forget the sheer tonnage of depleted uranium the U.S. and Israel have blasted all over the Middle East, (the ‘acceptable’ nuclear weapons).
    I think I read somewhere that D.U. blown over from the Middle East slaughter fest has been detected on the wind in the U.K. – is that true?
    Oh well, just another atrocity to add to the rancid Blair ‘legacy’.

    It figures that a psychopath like Truman would not want to hear from those who live to regret their part in the mass murders perpetuated by the American military industrial complex.
    I have become convinced that positions of high power in Western nations are the exclusive domain of psychopaths.
    You can’t have a normal, feeling, ethical human sitting in control of all those weapons and the money that gushes into the perpetual development and perfection.
    We need good cold psychos to do “what needs to be done” to protect the amorphous concept know as our “freedoms”.

    Amelopsis #3
    Yes - yet another disgrace upon our backward sliding Neocon Nation by the television educated, couch moistening, electorate here in the former Canada.
    Canada is no longer a safe haven for those seeking to avoid the commission of committing war crimes in the “War of Terror”.
    We are, after all neck deep in the smeared blood, and cracked bone of the ‘gunpoint democracy’ patriarchal Afghanistan occupation.
    Our Neocon puppetminister can’t lose face in the eyes of his American masters as Canada marches forward to glorious militarization and deep integration with the American war machine.

    Posted by Youngfox  on  from Adanac 09/28  at  08:00 AM
  5. Hellos to Amelopsis and Youngfox...If Canada doesn’t soon divorce the usa, it too will be doomed.

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/28  at  08:30 AM
  6. the uk has had a few nuclear accidents in its time.

    their tactic is not to shut the offending reactor down but just to change the name

    havent seen that story tho

    Posted by michael  on  from exile 09/28  at  08:38 AM
  7. michael...that “name changing” tactic is exactly what the government did when abuses at the School of the Assassins were publicized. The government continued doing the same thing at the same place but just changed the name of the school for terrorists. BTW, did the Lincoln Group just get a lucrative contract, financed by usa taxpayers, for propagandizing in Iraq?

    Posted by RMJ  on  from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 09/28  at  08:50 AM
  8. Had a frustrating conversation earlier in which someone tried to convince me that the most frightening thing he could think of was Iran with nukes. I said I was far more frightened by the US with nukes, just based on the empirical evidence, but the point didn’t get through.

    I’m with you RMJ and Mudge about keeping religion and ethnicity out of foreign (un)diplomacy. There’s this concept in the flawed US constitution of a separation between “church” and “state”. I just don’t understand how “church” got in there to begin with. But trying telling that to the insane wacko religious fundamentalists controlling the world’s largest arsenal of fire and brimstone machines (incl. but not limited to the nuclear variety).

    Posted by Keir  on  from The Hague (Jackowski election hdqts) 09/28  at  09:14 AM
  9. Talking about religion, Derrick Jensen used this Wilhem Reich quote in Endgame and god damn did it hit home for me:

    http://wdthu.blogspot.com/2006/09/wilhelm-reich.html

    Posted by JOS  on  from Chicago 09/28  at  12:22 PM
  10. Read “Revolution just ain’t what it used to be” on InformationClearingHouse.info. When I was coming of age, radicals were always saying the revolution was being “co-opted” by the marketplace. It’s worse than they could ever have imagined.

    Re nuke stuff, I’m just finishing reading “House of War” by James Carroll, which came out in May. It’s a history of America’s militarization, especially nuclear, since the end of World War II. It might be old hat to a historian like you, but I found it astonishing, much like “Saving Private Power.”

    Posted by Russ Wellen  on  from Sleepy Hollow, New York 09/28  at  12:39 PM
  11. Hello Expendables. Another gorgeous NYC day...but rain is looming.

    Thanks for the links. I’ll start clicking soon.

    Russ: Long time, not see.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 09/28  at  01:17 PM
  12. Off topic: But A new dark day is almost upon The United States as the Senate gets ready to pass the detainee legislation.

    I am beyond disappointed-I am furious! Screw the American people for allowing this to happen.

    Posted by The CultureGhost  on  from Concord CA 09/28  at  01:43 PM
  13. was Wilhelm Reich insane? http://skepdic.com/orgone.html

    his wikipedia entrance: http://tinyurl.com/hj9k7

    Kate Bush’s Cloudbusting was inspired by Peter Reich’s memoir of his father: http://tinyurl.com/qducu

    Posted by TM  on  from 09/28  at  01:56 PM
  14. I think we’re all insane, TM. As Culture Ghost’s example shows, we are part of a system more confusing than Alice in Wonderland. Laws are to be unheld, except when they’re not. Killing is illegal, except when it’s not. We can’t let rogue states have nukes, except when it’s America, Israel, etc. But what typically passes for debate in this country is Limbaugh vs. Franken.

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 09/28  at  02:01 PM
  15. Hi everyone.  JOS, nice web site.  I didn’t know about it.  I’m sure this will get the laugh factory cranked up again but I’m so excited for you to watch you know what, after reading your last comment. 

    RUSS:  You should listen to J.Carroll talk about “The House of War.” I caught his C-Span appearance awhile back.  I recently came across Walter A. Davis who has a new book out called “Death’s Dream Kingdom: The American Psyche Since 9-11.” They both do a nice job describing the American mindset post WWII.  I’m not familiar w/ “Saving Private...” but I’ll check it out.  RE revolution being “co-opted”:  I agree.  What would Abbie Hoffman say, smile?  I still stand by my comment f/ yesterday re the Hungarian freedom fighting spirit.  At the risk of being the spoil sport again (a few know what I mean here), I must say that I wasn’t surprised when “The Daily Show” made “light” of the recent youth Hungarian protests.  It seems cliche but we are still products of our own cynicism.  But in a kind of quasi-defense of this cynicism, how does one make any kind of a serious, long lasting statement when everything here is a perpetual and virtual publicity stunt?

    Posted by dw  on  from ohio 09/28  at  02:06 PM
  16. I wish my orgones were flowing freely right now, TM.  I read all about Wilhelm before I posted on him, he’s my kinda guy.  Yes, he most likely was fairly crazy.

    Posted by JOS  on  from Chicago 09/28  at  03:12 PM
  17. Good on you, Mickey - and good on you, Mr Oppenheimer!  Thanks for another insightful post - keep refreshing our memories.

    Another sunny day lies ahead in Daylesford - the lack of rain has led to dangerously low water levels in the reservoirs around Australia.  And a long hot summer is ahead. 

    ‘Hi’ to Michael, Rosemarie, Amelopsis, Youngfox, Keir, JOS, Ros Wellen, TheCultureGhost, TM and dw - hope I haven’t overlooked anyone.

    All best!

    Posted by Helga Fremlin  on  from Daylesford, Australia 09/28  at  04:07 PM
  18. Hello again, everyone. Just dropping by with this gem from Alexander Berkman: “War paralyzes your courage and deadens the spirit of true manhood. It degrades and stupefies with the sense that you are not responsible, that ‘tis not yours to think and reason why, but to do and die,’ like the hundred thousand others doomed like yourself. War means blind obedience, unthinking stupidity, brutish callousness, wanton destruction, and irresponsible murder.”

    Posted by Mickey Z.  on  from Astoria 09/28  at  07:10 PM
  19. MZ #18: This is why I don’t read Hemingway.  I feel poisoned by the testosterone.

    Writing a trianing manual.  See y’all later.

    Posted by Mudge  on  from Austin, Texas 09/28  at  09:23 PM

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