Mickey Z

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Sunday, July 30, 2006

"Wars are always wars against children"

Posted by Mickey Z on 07/30 at 05:57 AM

Right on. Followed the al-Jazeera link (nations killing children) and found this little story on their top page.

Listen: not only is their a whole league of sadists in suits murdering children, but they’re making barrels of cash out of it. I can’t remember where now, but earlier this week I came across the famous Earth First (I think) statement that goes something like “The earth is not dying, it is being murdered, and the people who are murdering it have names and addresses.” As with the earth, so with children.

Posted by Keir on from The Hague 07/30 at 09:30 AM

Mickey thanks for this topic today. I cannot see the video...I am sure that I am missing a lot. The photos, everyone needs to see them. Thanks for all that you continue to do.

Keir...you make a very important point about those who are doing the murdering have names and addresses. As long as the general public just thinks that it is only “the government” that is doing the evil, no progress will be made. I have changed my views and no longer blame the government. It is individual fellow human beings who must be held accountable.

A couple of facts in case we get any “visitors” here today....While some usa citizens were trying to evacuate Lebanon, the usa was sending more weapons over to slaughter them.
Israel has been holding some prisoners for over 20 years.
Israel is STILL refusing to produce a map showing where they have placed land mines in Lebanon.

BTW, last night there was program on C-span about 9/11 theories and government conspiracies. I only saw part of it but it was very impressive and convincing. I don’t know what to think, but I was impressed to see a program like that on C-span. If that view receives some increasing legitimization in the MSM, hummmm… One of the statements made was that the take-over of the government has already happened and that the military needs to start arresting government officials. I believe that and wrote an article about it a while back....something about “them having a coup and not inviting us”.

Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 07/30 at 11:30 AM

I just noticed that the program I refer to in my previous post will be rebroadcast today. If anyone is interested in conspiracy theories about 9/11 they might want to see this on C-span.

02:14 PM EDT
1:45
Forum
September 11th Terrorist Attacks
Alex Jones Productions
Alex Jones
James H. Fetzer , Scholars for 9/11 Truth

Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 07/30 at 11:45 AM

Hello Keir and RMJ. It would be great if we had more visitors here. Not just because of my posts...but mostly for what the Expendables add. Instead, we’re yelling in a tiny corner as the planet is being murdered

Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 07/30 at 11:49 AM

I love that Bill Hicks he’s one silly intelligent mo’ fo’. Be sure to click the “goat boy” and “posative acid trip” skit after watching Mickey’s link.

Personally I place the Coup of America back when Kennedy was taken out in 63. 911 was when the skeleton’s came out of the closet and started there party of death. Looking at the available public evidence there is no question both events were an inside job. Unquestionably history shows us that the American public have been played for fools for a long long time…

Peace and Love.
LC

Posted by Luna_C on from The Delta 07/30 at 01:00 PM

Hey Luna. With all due, I think JFK was no different than any other war criminal U.S. president. No matter who or what was behind his murder, his death changed little or nothing. Imagine if Bush died. Cheney takes over and it’s business as usual. Same deal with JFK and LBJ. That’s my take on it.

Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 07/30 at 01:06 PM

Luna, about a coup. Here’s a link to an old one of mine.
http://tinyurl.com/dvn7b

Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 07/30 at 01:48 PM

Highs (from the strangest state in the union).

RMJ, I think the most useful analysis is good ol’ fashioned institutional analysis. For example:

“In the Middle East and Southwest Asia, our overall objective is to remain the predominant outside power in the region and preserve U.S. and Western access to the region’s oil.”

[excerpted from the Pentagon’s Feb. 18 (1992) draft of the Defense Planning Guidance for the Fiscal Years 1994-1999]

That’s on the public record, and stated quite clearly (if you ask me).

As for conspiracy theories, they’re never-ending puzzles which are rarely solved. I say leave that sort of stuff to the mystery novelists…

@MZ (#6); I’m right with you on that…

captcha = had (as in “enough")

Posted by RT on from The Buyou City 07/30 at 01:58 PM

RT, I get your point, BUT what if the belief (by others)in a 9/11 conspiracy could be used to “encourage” the citizens to take a good look at what those in power have been doing? It might produce a unique opportunity to make some needed reforms.

Posted by RMJ on from Churchill 4 Prez Hdqts 07/30 at 02:11 PM

I hear where your coming from. I really believe his death was the first step to changing everything. Up to that point we had a very politically active populous. Sure it was manipulated but it was at least informed and working towards a better future. After the assassinations of JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcom X, and the Native American movement. The politically active part of the American social consciousness was effectively lobotomized. Since then it’s been meagerly effective at best. With no strong political figures coming into the limelight or even getting effective air time. Let alone being taken as any sort of threat to the establishment.

I think it’s safe to say that since JFK fell it’s been open season for the controllers to push there agenda as hard and fast as they are able. Currently culminating in 911 a blatantly obvious shock and awe job designed to keep everyone off balance and distracted while they do what they will with impunity on the world stage.

I don’t pretend to know what’s happening on the inside of world politics. But It’s like everyone knows Daddy is sick and abusive but no one wants to do anything about it because he could kill us all at the touch of a button.

Posted by Luna_C on from The Delta 07/30 at 02:34 PM

Great Article RMJ!

I wish for that too.

It’s like we as individuals will almost certainly never have hard evidence that explains everything that’s been going on. The best we can do is soak up as much information as we possibly can and continually make adjustments to our working theory. I cant prove to anyone even myself that 911 was an inside job. The best I can do is trust my instinct and work with the theory that makes sense judging from my understanding of history and the evidence available.

Ugh, Maybe we should give up the political discussion for awhile and talk about spirituality and religion instead. lol

Posted by Luna_C on from The Delta 07/30 at 02:52 PM

Good afternoon, Mickey and eps.

Sometimes it seems to me, that the only appropriate response to what is going on is, an explosive anger that can only be self destructive. If one gets angry, and there isn’t a ready channel, one more then just another useless placard waving to the jeers and moans of the partying masses (I was one of those deluded during the Vietnam days, into thinking my marching had an effect), sometimes it is a survival method, to learn how to “turn it off”, and go to the movies. Keep your head on tight, and wait for the call, when one’s anger can join with enough others and be useful.

captch=food hmmm

Posted by Peter (the other) on from California 07/30 at 04:06 PM

I see it was a quiet Sunday, and the conversation went to the familiar territory of conspiracies. Easier to ponder the mysterious potential moral vacuity of the people who profited off of 911 than to investigate the provable moral vacuity in their profitting off of the continuing murder of (brown) children, I guess. That comment is not directed at anyone, just at my own midnight frustration with the violence I am reading about.

RMJ about the military arresting government officials...I don’t know if I’m into that. Too clean, like shuffling deck chairs.

Posted by Keir on from The Hague 07/30 at 07:41 PM

I’m with you, Keir. I don’t have a clue what really happened to JFK, MLK, or WTC, but my top concern is the culture of violence that makes such events inevitable...almost normal.

Posted by Mickey Z. on from Astoria 07/30 at 07:55 PM

Personally I think that’s the whole point of attempting to understand the “conspiracy” history. When taken within the context of our day to day lives our culture of violence doesn’t make any sort of sense. We know the vast majority of people are concerned individuals who just want to live there lives without hurting themselves, others, or the planet and sustain our future as a species. People by there very nature want to be good to each other.
However we live within a society where this is boiled out of us in every way possible. At every turn our society has been derailed from pursuing a tendency to be nurturing to each other and instead forced continually down a path where we are set at odds and apart from one another. This isn’t because it’s in our nature to be evil or self destructive. It’s because the “conspiracy” establishment has at every turn worked it’s will against us. Manipulated., bamboozled, coerced and mind F&#ked us to the point where we are so turned around we can hardly make a move without second guessing our selves into inaction. They do all this just to maintain there worldly power. It’s the only game they know and unless we as a society stop them, they’ll play it till we’re all dead.
That’s the crux of our disconnect. We don’t see the “conspiracy” so we are left grasping at the straws offered to explain the failure of society. “it’s our oil based economy” , “it’s the greedy corporations”, “it’s the terrorists” , it’s the evil race of the week”. It’s every theory that comes down to mankind being an evil bloodthirsty selfish race only wanting to eat each other while the “sheeple” cower in the corner. I say Bullshit. We aren’t sheeple, evil or cowardly. We are confused and frightened and that makes us powerful and very dangerous. Hence the accelerated events from 911 on. They have to play there endgame now or lose all the bananas. We are waking up.
What we need to see is the conspiracy establishment that’s not only orchestrating assassinations and terror events home and abroad. It’s also orchestrating our culture to make these things seem almost normal and expected. That’s the real horror of there game isn’t it? North American and British societies are victims of cultural manipulation and brain washing for decades if not centuries. We are taught from a young age to fight our inner peaceful loving nature and look out for A #1.
We all know what is wrong with society and what needs to be done to fix it. We just need to be free of the gun at our heads and the soma in our minds. Things can change for the better very very quickly once we get the ball rolling.
What’s the point of my wee rant? Geez I don’t know. I like to think it comes down to understanding your enemy. Because that’s the only way to beat them. When you understand and see there tactics around you. You stand a better chance of not only surviving, but teaching others to see and survive, then as a group standing up to them and stopping there madness. When the worm turns the people protecting this conspiracy will be the ones revealing it. We can have a better future if we can take it.

Peace, love and way to long of a freaken post…
Luna

Posted by Luna_C on from The Delta 07/30 at 09:36 PM

I appreciate your thinking through to the truth of every matter. The searching and seekng of the truth and acknowledging and accepting that we may never know the whole truth of anything. Thank you for the uplifting thoughts of the best Americans, (unselfish, compassionate towards all the children of the good earth) coming together in power and support to throw the thugs out. I fear head thug george is going to say he has the power to stay and be dictator, right after he bombs Iran. I think Dick Cheney is the first man I have really hated, or allowed myself to hate.

Add to that the big percentage of spoiled, superior, lazy people who have no courage to see the truth. They would rather “believe” than know.

It comforts me to know you are here. I look forward to adding you to my daily search for our future. David Sirota, Arthur Silber and Billmon
help me a lot also.
Aloha, Mickey

Posted by Mickey Wayland on from Hilo, Hawaii 08/03 at 09:56 PM